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dazned

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new and desperate!
« on: February 16, 2015, 12:09:14 PM »

Hello everyone,a quick outline to me 4 years ago was Peri,terrible palpitations,anxiety,nausea,feeling so unwell I was convinced I had something terminal ! I then thought it could be hormonal and spent about 6 months finding a doctor to agree! Eventually got started on Estelle duet and it all went away thank goodness.Thought that was the end of it hen last summer started getting episodes of jittering,shaking inside ,tight chest and just feeling awful but not being able to describe just how other than saying I felt unbalanced ! ( and not in my head :)  ) My original doctor had left so back to square one,first doctor said it wasn't hormones try Cbt, second insisted I was depressed even though I said I wasn't so I started on Prozac nearly ended up in casualty! Stopped that and decided to see someone private ,took diary to show the pattern of symptons and he said it was def cyclic and suggested femoston conti 1/5 Iam 55 years ,started in Dec and things started settling down but last Thursday it started up again on the last 3 days of tablets ,feeling wretched ,nauseated,shaking ,no appetite,just don't want to do anything and again convincing myself I have some terrible illness! I feel like it's never ending and can't cope which this much more ,does this sound like anyone else out tyre it's so frightening,I'm normally a rational strong person and feel let down by the GPs,it's like they have never come across hormones! So I guess I will have to pay and go back to the specialist but that might mean trialling something else ,hope someone can help me ,reassure me feel bogged down with it all ,thanks for reading my rambling .
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Dancinggirl

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2015, 12:28:25 PM »

Hi and welcome dazed
You are not alone - we are here to listen and support.  You have not been rambling - it's great for us to have an overall view of what is going on.  Your story is not unique - sadly many GPs are not up to speed on meno symptoms.
You are obviously using the continuous version Femoston and Femoston is a good HRT to be on as the hormones are close to our own. The only problem is Femoston 1/5  is quite a low dose and I'm wondering if your own hormones have now bottomed out as you go deeper into post meno(this is the hormones your body would produce naturally) and you may need a higher dose of HRT.  Clearly the progesterone in Femoston is suiting you and you perhaps would not do so well on the more synthetic ones so you could try Oestrogen in patch or Gel form with Utrogestan taken separately as this regime is bio identical.  The oestrogen level in patch or Gel form can be increased until you feel your symptoms are under control.  I'm afraid if your GPs aren't sympathetic then it may involve another visit to a private gynae for advice on this - having said that you could print off the info on their site about this regime and show it to the GP and they should be able to prescribe it.
Keep us posted. DG x
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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2015, 12:32:22 PM »

dazned  :welcomemm:


Taz x
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dazned

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2015, 01:01:31 PM »

Thanks for your replies and welcome, I got quite teary to hear personally someone was actually there ,stupid me as I've read enough posts to know there are ,go figure !

Should I try longer on this I wonder or ask to go up think there is a femoston conti 2/10 isn't there or is that different? Although I know feeling like this does go away it's the not knowing when and where,and when you are in the grip of it I just can't seem to rationalise it out.The only time I can escape is when asleep and I can't even do that without Zopiclone ! (Sure I could get heroin easier from the doctor than a sleeping tablet ) Just feel a failure somehow and letting my husband down isn't easy for them either.
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Dancinggirl

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2015, 01:09:42 PM »

dazned - this is a tough time in our lives and we all experience it differently.  Do read up all the info on this site - it really helps to be really clued up. Unfortunately I don't think there is a higher dose of conti Femoston - there is a sequential version at 2/10 but that would give you a monthly withdrawal bleed.  Many of us choose to stay on a regime that gives the monthly bleed well in to post menopause so you could give Femoston 2/10 a try.
YOU ARE NOT A FAILURE -  you just need to find a way to get all these horrible things under control.  Many of us have hit rock bottom - so keep posting and that will be helpful in itself.  DG x
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dazned

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2015, 05:09:39 PM »

Thanks DG x

Will think about femoston 2/10 and maybe ask gynecologist about trying that I don't care if I have a bleed if these feelings go away,but he seemed to think that they were premenstrual symptoms and by not having them it would go away,well I think that was what he meant! I 've read so much all over the place my mind is boggled! Too much, too less all have the same sort of symptons the only thing I know I haven't got is hot flushes, I just permanent wear to t-shirt even in the depths of winter!
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Hurdity

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2015, 05:17:56 PM »

Hi dazned

 :welcomemm: from me too.

Just to add to what's already been said - I'm not quite clear on the timing of what you are taking. If your doctor said your symptoms were cyclical this suggests that you have not yet gone through menopause - but I can see why the doc put you on conti HRT because you are over 54 - as this is the age you can try continuous combined HRT if you started before you were 54.

I am wondering what dose of Elleste you were taking - was it 1 mg the same as Femoston?  If you were on Elleste Duet 2 mg, then it's the reduction in oestrogen likely to be causing the symptoms and you should have been put on 2 mg to avoid symptpoms - as Dancinggirl says it is not available continuosly, only as cyclical 2/10 like with the Elleste.  If it was the same dose then it could be your body getting used to continuous progestogen - which of course you weren't having before.
As Dancinggirl also says many of us ( including myself) prefer to stay on a cycle even when post-menopausal, to avoid continuous progesterone - I am 61 and still having a cycle!

Hurdity x
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CLKD

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2015, 05:19:46 PM »

Oh these symptoms  >:( ……….. they either creep up or WHAM! land suddenly.  You are not alone any more, have a browse of the menus left of screen; ask away; make notes; keep a food/mood diary ………. and rest!  Take care of YOU! listen to your body.

Delegate! if you had 'flu those around you would survive  ;)
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dazned

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2015, 05:35:42 PM »

Hi Hurdity thanks for your information,I was on 1mg Estelle for 4 years but started missing bleeds and only really having shows or nothing when symptoms returned so he suggested a non bleed because I m now 55 so maybe I do need more estrogen as DG suggested as further down the road now or as you say maybe my body needs time to adjust to continuous progesterone as you say,although 8 weeks in thought I might have adjusted,or maybe a bit of both things :-*

CLkd thanks for your support I do feel guilty not cooking ,cleaning,shopping etc but when I m like this I just can't do it ! I'm fed up with myself ! Goodness knows what hubby must feel like but he is good it's just me feeling vulnerable!
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CLKD

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2015, 05:48:21 PM »

SO ASK HIM  ::) - make sure that he doesn't think these changes are his 'fault'  ::) so be clear with him that this is hormonal and out of your control.  Cooking, cleaning, shopping  :-\ ……. when I had anxiety which kept me housebound for 3 months I worried but decided that if Hubby lived alone he would have to do it all  ;) - you can take part by writing a running list during the week for stuff to be bought, of course when I do that I forget to take the list with me or even where I've put it  ::) [we have a thread about that too!].

There were days when I would set off to go shopping but panic would send me back to the car and home.  The GP was very good and prescribed Valium for 'as necessary' use and now I take a betablocka at night to ease any anxiety surges which helps.  It can be Trial and Error finding something that works and of course, I wanted it to be better yesterday ……...
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Kathleen

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2015, 06:40:44 PM »

Hello dazned.

Welcome to the forum. I know how frightening this meno business can be, so you are not alone.

I hope you get the right treatment from your doctors as that is half the battle.

Wishing you well.

K.
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dazned

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2015, 03:43:15 PM »

CLKD thanks for those thoughts ! Gave me a lightbulb moment ,didn't think to ASK him how he felt ! Just kept guessing,too consummated in myself.

You say you have a beta blocker at night,how is that going,can you take it ok along with HRT ? X
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CLKD

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2015, 03:49:50 PM »

I expect they can be taken within any 24 hours but best check with a pharmacist.  I take 40mg at night for anxiety and if necessary, take 40mg at breakfast too.
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dazned

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2015, 08:50:25 PM »

 >:(   >:(  just 're read my post

Should be consumed Not consummate.  >:(  funny tho !
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dazned

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Re: new and desperate!
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2015, 08:53:08 PM »

Oh they should be laughing icons too! Shows how spaced out Iam. !  ;D ;D
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