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[CLKD]

They are young adults and must learn to take responsibility.  It doesn't matter how cheap drink or drugs are, it is their choice! trouble is, when people fall into very cold water it literally takes their breath away.  Sad for everyone concerned.  No amount of 'telling' makes it real until it happens within a group, however old that group might be.  The shock is the same, the sadness continues ……. hopefully those close to anyone who has such a tragedy will be more aware ...

[jedigirl]

Quote from Durham Constabulary today;
"One of the areas we will be looking at, with the support of the Students' Union, is the welfare of people affected by alcohol and late night drinking.

“In the days and months ahead there will be several partnership meetings to discuss these issues.

“It's broader than simply putting barriers at the riverside.”

Durham County Council has promised to deliver a review of river safety, and students have called for gates at access points to the river.

But Supt Huddleston added: “In the past two years we have been working hard to improve the safety of students in the city, it is not just about river safety but about young people's safety across the board.

“While CCTV, barriers and lights is something I welcome, this is a far greater issue.”



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[honeybun]

We have the Clyde up here.

It's a huge issue with students. How on earth do we educate them that getting blind drunk is not smart.
As I said some of the things that my daughter saw and was subjected to in halls was not funny.


Honeyb
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[CLKD]

"It's broader than simply putting barriers at the riverside"

.  Others are first timers away from parental influence so go a bit silly with tragic consequences.  This is something that should be addressed before pupils sit their 'A' Levels! Discussion groups in Schools would be a starting point to give children/young adults, already au fait with alcohol, something to think about.  That drink = consequences.  They also need to have it pointed out that it is not pleasant for those clearing up the results!

[jedigirl]

My youngest son is in year 6 and they are currently studying a safety carousel that includes responsibility around fire, water, drugs, electricity and health and relationships. If this was offered at appropriate levels throughout education maybe it would protect our youngsters more?

[honeybun]

I really don't know what would help. Our kids saw us have a glass of wine with dinner on occasions. If they wanted to try they got a watered down sip when they were younger. From 16/17 if they wanted a small drink they could have one. They never saw anyone drunk as that's not the way we are.......did it stop them wanting to experiment as they got older.....did it heck.
Then the rules were layed down very clearly.......do not come home drunk as its not acceptable.

Then they moved out and who knows.....I think they are generally sensible but I know they have both made mistakes.

What more can a parent do except try the very best they can to prepare kids for the outside world.....sadly sometimes it makes no difference at all.


Honeyb
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[CLKD]

Jedigirl - I think it would help some [like myself] but others will go their own way because they are fearless as well as immortal. 

Honeybun - I think you are right, sadly 

[jedigirl]

Yes sadly, for some those moments of madness or carelessness will cost them dearly. 

[Joyce]

My daughter used to work in a video store for extra cash years ago. One chap she worked with went on a bender one weekend & thought he could walk a bridge parapet. He didn't make it.  Fell 100 ft.

I may have gotten a bit tipsy on occasion when out when I was younger, but was always in control of my faculties.  I'd  have been too terrified to do things which would endanger my life.

[Millykin]

They say some people are born and they take risks in life, think of the thrill first gives them a rush while others have fear instincts like myself who always analyse the dangers first.
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[CLKD]

Millykin - I was too scared of 'getting wrong' when I got home  so tended on the cautious.  Also women are more cautious in general.

It could be fast cars, free-boarding, skiing ………. un-related to drink.  Sadly some are born not to survive 

[hanging.on.in.there]

I'm devastated by this, he was on the same course as my daughter, and they were in the restaurant with him that night, and he wasn't drunk  so they really need to keep investigating

[Scampi]

It's very sad, and if drink/drugs were not an issue it really does need further investigation.

But (and I may get shouted down for this, but it has to be said), MOST of these incidents ARE down to some sort of substance abuse.  I work in York, and there have been incidents of students ending up in the river after a binge.  Last time, the president of the student union said the council should be fencing off the river to prevent such tragedies!!!!  I'm sorry, but surely he should have been promoting responsibility amongst the student population, not passing their inability to know when to stop drinking off as some sort of 'rite of passage'!  York is beautiful, and its long river-side footpaths are part of that beauty - why should the whole city be blighted by the lack of responsibility of a few?? 

[CLKD]

Scampi - I agree.  Tradegy happens.  2 months before we were married a guy was shot dead on the river bank …….. the gun had been fired from 2 miles away by teens who knew where the key to the Gun Cabinet was kept.  They had no idea that the bullet would travel so far and find a target  .

One can slip into water/under a car/train etc. in an instant whether or not substances have been used.  Also, how would others know what had/not been taken 

[jedigirl]

hanging.on.in.there
its very sad, hope your daughter is okay.
 Durham is generally a safe place and such a beautiful city to live in. I do hope this is well investigated.  I can understand that young lads will go somewhere private for a wee but the path is not that close to the river. It seems odd to me but no doubt all these things will be looked into.