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[CLKD]

apparently to encourage young children to get interested in classical music the BBC has made a new film - what I want to know is what was wrong with Disney's 'fantasia'?  exactly the same idea! as children are used to seeing oh what's the word: cartoons : surely putting them in front of 'fantasia' would have been better?

[honeybun]

Times change CLKD and to engage children we have to change things too.


Honeyb
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[CLKD]

Having watched some of the film it's the same idea and much less 'violent'.  Certainly the music chosen for this idea isn't anything I would listen to - and I was raised on classical music: I know, most parents used Cow and Gate  ……. : in fact only classical was allowed under their roof ……… 

[honeybun]

My kids were brought up on the Rolling Stones, and The Beatles, in fact a lot of the old stuff.
Neither of them are keen on classical but love 60s stuff.

You can only introduce children to a wide variety of things and let them make up their own minds.


Honeyb
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[CLKD]

The point is to introduce kids to classical music because they are surrounded by other types of but I was scoffed at in School due to learning classical piano pieces but it didn't put me off.  It did close my mind to other types of music until 1984. 

[dulciana]

I think there's room for introducing kids to all kinds of music (within reason!).  Yes, I'm tempted to say just classical music (and organ music in particular!!), but children are sponges for this sort of thing and you never know what interest or talent may be sparked.   Just a thought.....................

[CLKD]

Recorders were the instrument of choice in many Schools in the 50s/60s  followed by clarinets and cornets.  Singing in choirs or taking part in drama class was also part of education. 

I loved to listen under the bedclothes to the Top of the Pops on a Sunday evening 

[Hurdity]

There was an amazing programme the other day - maybe Channel 4 - can't remember the guy - he worked with primary school children to introduce them to orchestral instruments and they had a few lessons ( just the very basics - and maybe just one or two notes).

This was a school that could barely afford money for basic curriculum stuff - maths and literacy- and had no funding for music at all

He got an orchestra to come and play in the school hall and the kids filed in from their classrooms as the orchestra were playing a dramatic piece (can't remember what) and they were absolutely spellbound - you should have seen their faces! After a few weeks the children actually played a classical piece on their instruments ( their one note) at the right time while the guy played keyboard - to the audience of parents. It was amazing to see but of course difficult to replicate everywhere.

Hurdity x

[CLKD]

Music was huge when I was in school, although we had to play the instruments that were available.  It was a relief from maths or cross country  and I enjoyed going to other schools top lay in our orchestra or sing in our choir.

It would be nice to see Gareth Malone-type idea going across the education system to encourage more music generally and think of the ethnic diversity now!

[Hattie]

Afraid as Hurdity said CKLD the funding for music in schools is either low or not there. Often if there is a teacher at  primary school who is musical lessons may be offered in the lunch hour for recorder.

I always encouraged my children to do music, i can't read a note ! - we paid for them to have lessons.
We were very lucky in that our major city down here has a childrens orchestra which any child can join from the age of seven regardless of ability. There was a chamber orchestra for the older more accomplished players.
My daughter didn't take to it all but my son benefitted hugely - he went abroad with the orchestra on exchange visits and we had youngsters back to stay from france and russia.He got music GCSE and had help from secondary school with buying instruments on a school scheme.

He didn't quite make the grades for university to do a course that wasn't music at all but they took him anyway. I believe it was because by that time he had Grade 8 on saxophone and the university had a Big Band.

I agree with you it would be great to see Gareth Malone or that type of idea going across schools - especially primary.
It is all there but a lot has to come from parents at the moment.

Hattie X

[CLKD]

Music, Movement and Mime anyone 

[dulciana]

Hurdity, wish I'd seen that prog.  The way I see it, musical outreach to schools, of the kind you saw on TV, is an absolute must.  It's something that can inspire kids beyond pop and can invite them into a world that the folks at home may have made them think is only for snobs.  (I got a bit of this at school.)  Thinking of Gustavo Dudamel's El Sistema in South America, parental back-up is crucial for any child to develop as a young musician, whatever the family's financial circumstances.  There are so many countries beyond ours where there is music in the home as a matter of course.  People (including children) go to concerts and the value of music is fully appreciated.   Kids don't get mocked if they carry a fiddle to school.  They don't only know music with a beat.      Whether children end up going in for music or just keep it as a hobby isn't the issue here, but music's an international language, a social leveller and an emotional outlet rolled into in one.   

[CLKD]

I played the piano, recorder, clarinet and could sing: Menopause Group ? what do/did you play?

[Joyce]

When I worked in nursery I made up CD of music some classical, some chill stuff. Younger girls thought I was mad, but much better than listening to some of the explicit lyrics on some songs these days.

Not sure if the children enjoyed it, but maybe somewhere down the line they will remember a tune from their childhood.  At primary school we had a music teacher who would come in. After teaching us some songs he always played some music by Bach. Names of pieces escape me, but when I hear it I remember music teacher vividly.

[dulciana]

CLKD - organ!