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[honeybun]

I am still confused. You don't want war history taught in schools and the past is irrelevant.

But.....

My mind is spinning trying to figure things out


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[Christine]

Hi Limpy...my son wont fight in Ukraine, he is British, his wife is Ukrainian. her family are over there.

The Russians are already in eastern Ukraine...drifted well outside Crimea even though Russia says its untrue (Skype is a marvellous thing - get the facts from real people).

Crimea is part of Ukraine & should stay that way.

If say for example, some tyrant tried to invade Scotland or Wales.....its exactly the same thing. I am a Scot living in England & I would be livid!!! as we are all the UK, so nobody has the right to invade.

CKLD..Yup is using the Russian speaking thing as an excuse, my DIL & all of her family friends etc are all Russian speaking but are Ukrainian...she says nobody is threatening them EXCEPT the Russian invaders.

Long term if he isn't stopped the outlook is scary for the rest of Europe.

[honeybun]

Scotland is under attack.....from Alex Salmond and the SNP 



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[Joyce]

 

[Bluebell]

Yes, I believe our  supply comes partly from Russia and also from Norway so I think if sanctions are imposed ...... well...... they say we would be having power cuts on some form of rota basis

[Joyce]

I think someone in government said that only 1% of our gas comes from Russia, rest comes from places like Norway.  Hopefully no power cuts in the near future.

[CLKD]

More than that but can't remember the figures, what Hauge said to the World on Sat. is that the UK will be sourcing our gas supplies from elsewhere - but it can take up to 7 years to instigate this change! which is what the UK should have done 20 years ago 

Thanks Christine!

Honeybun   -  at least you will get an option!

[Limpy]

Scotland is under attack.....from Alex Salmond and the SNP 

Fear not Honeyb - Gordon Brown has a plan, don't know whether it's cunning..........

[Limpy]

Speaking today to somebody from Hungary. They have a border with the Ukraine and get their gas from Russia (I think). They are worried about what's going to happen, they think their PM is weak and know Putin is not.

[CLKD]

Please explain: why if there has been a referendum, to which Crimea want to be with Russia, the remainder of the 1st World are agitating for sanctions  - why didn't the 1st World have 'words' when the USSR split ?

[dulciana]

That confuses me too, CLKD.   

[Taz2]

I think it's because it was not a proper referendum CLKD because it occurred under military intervention and also violated the Ukrainian convention.

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[Limpy]

I think the reason the Ukranian people want to be seen as voting for Crimea being part of Russia is that Russia has already invaded. The Ukranian military have been confined to quarters by the Russians. Don't know whether they have got out yet.

That's probably the reason why the remainder of the 1st World are agitating for sanctions.

[honeybun]

And the big question is where will he go next.

I have a feeling this is only the start.


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[CLKD]

But people seem keen on the result ………  ……… I can't think that people would be joyful in the streets if they hadn't voted ……… I think we are on scary ground should we be interfering ?