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[Trey]

I'm such a fan of Estrace, estradiol cream and upped my dosage the past two weeks.  It is a known cause of gall bladder disease.  I've been in pain on and off since last night.  Sort of makes me re-think the question of systemic absorption.  I've had this twice before and if lucky will take omega 3, milk thistle and Taurine and stop eating fats and nuts for a while.  Had two slices of cheddar cheese last night.

So crossing my fingers.

Posted this because of the estrogen connection.  I'm on patch as well.  Will decrease cream, not patch as did fine until I did so many things wrong at once.

[honeybun]

Sounds painful Trey.

I can't eats nuts or sweet corn or peppers as it cause my diverticulitis problems to rear it's head.

Bland low fat diet for a while perhaps.

Do you think you would have absorbed too much estradiol or maybe just an unhappy coincidence.
You have had a run in with nuts before if I recall.

Hope you feel much better soon.


Honeyb
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[Taz2]

Sorry to hear this Trey - have a hug.

Taz x 

[Trey]

The only thing I changed was the increase in the estrogen cream and possibly too many fats at once.  Eating very carefully just now, baked potato and no fat yogurt.  Hope it behaves through the night.

This is the same connection of estrogen to cholesterol production.  I just can't see how it is, but that's what the fact sheets says---increase in gallbladder disease.........

I think I'll take Taurine for the rest of my life as it is supposed to thin cholesterol.

[CLKD]

Cheddar cheese won't help!  all cheese has fats .......... which is one of the first things to cause gall bladder symptoms.  I doubt whether you are absorbing enough estrogen to cause problems, unless you cut out all fats including cheese and chocolate you won't know for certain 

I'll have your chocolate portion please  and I'm sure the dogs will help out with the cheese .........

[Trey]

Waiting for doc to call.  I know I need ultrasound.  Don't feel very well, but haven't eaten hardly anything.  Main thing is not to get infected as I'm allergic to most ABs.  I'm getting sore in my back now and only the occasional spasm so improved in some ways, just weak.

The h*** you say, CLKD, you are NOT getting my chocolate.  You are probably right on the estradiol cream.  I did a ton of exercises this week and can't tell one soreness from another. 

I hate living alone at times like this.

[CLKD]

Of course.  No one to have a Jolly Good Moan to and no one to tell  you to call the Doctor/go for a walk/it will pass 

Are you able to tolerate goat products?  Although to me they taste like goats smell, there is a UK company who pack and post goad products world wide for those with allergies ...........  even pets!

[Rose]

Trey, I hope you are okay. I had to have my gall bladder removed as I had gallstones, tiny ones that kept getting out and wrecking my pancreas and liver. It wasn't picked up by Docs beforehand until it got so bad I was in agony. Please don't let anyone ignore your need for help and torture them until they do something, that's if you haven't already. My thoughts are with you. Gall bladder attacks are horrible. Are you loosing weight? I feel so much better now it's gone but I am still stick thin, two years on!

[Trey]

Gall ducts clear, no sludge or stones. Outside inflamed, white count up.  Nothing abnormal in all the organs, which is weird as previous scans had sludge and abnormalities.  Still getting pinching spasms, feel weak and yes, Rose, lost lots of weight.  All I can think of is taking Taurine and my powerful laser my have cleared the ducts.  The Taurine thins cholesterol so who knows.  I did an excessive amount of exercise in that area, a standing Pilates one and also tai chi to manipulate he fascia over the abdominal organs and common sense tells me that must have something to do with it as well as sudden high fat intake.

[CLKD]

Finding small muscles you didn't know you had then 

Feet up, chocolate to hand ........ 

[joyce21]

Hi Trey
I have Gall bladder problems, I was supposed to have mine taken out last year, but i have such a phobia of surgery that I chickened out at the eleventh hour  . But in the main, i've sussed out what set's mine off, the ones for me are Butter, Fat, eggs and white bread. I was poorly a few weeks ago with it (one of my worst attacks to date) and I don't know what caused that, I tried to go over what I'd eaten, but nothing really pop's up for me. The surgeon did tell me that your gall bladder does a natural flush a couple of times a year, and in people with no problems this will pass without them even knowing, but in people with problems already it can trigger an attack, so it could have been this that caused your pain.
Good luck in getting to the bottom of it

joyce x

[Trey]

Joyce, thanks, that helps as it really was out of the blue because I've been eating the same fat foods forever. The tai chi and qi gong are supposed to manipulate those organs and maybe that set it off.  The GB surgery is not to be taken lightly.  Many are lucky but many get dumping syndrome and have the rins after eating forever.  Also this and that can be nicked in surgery.  No such thing as simple surgery, just simple surgeons.  And we do need our GB to digest fats. Everything has a purpose or it wouldn't be there.

Thanks!

[Rose]

Hi Trey and Joyce,
Please don't ignore your symptoms. If your gall bladder needs to go, so be it. Honestly you'll feel so much better. I have to watch what I eat regarding fats but am probably staying thin because of that. In my case I had pancreatitis and that's pretty serious. Are any of you feeling nauseous? What I'm really saying is; have your gall bladder out if that is what is recommended because it can save a whole lot of pain in the end. As for you, Trey, I hope that the medical profession gets to the bottom of this.
take care, Rose.

[Trey]

Today I noticed I really have overworked my abdominal muscles as was sore on both sides.  Eating well and no nausea.  I'm fine.  And happy about it.

[Taz2]

  Trey

Taz x