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[kerrieann]

greyhoundgal, quick question for you, or anyone else that may know, i was going to buy the turmeric capsules then i read that they can cause stomach upset, i have a very sensitive stomach but i do eat indian curries as often as i can  and they never upset my stomach and i believe they use turmeric in those so would i be ok with the capsles do you think ?
Silverlady, i just wanted to tell you that the exercise that you told me about is the same as the one that the physio gave me, so its one of the exercises i am doing, does it make any sense that when i do these stretches i feels really good and my groin feels free, but it wears off after about an hour, does this mean its doing good or is it just a temporary relief ?
Sorry for all the questions but i am determine to get to the bottom of this with or without the help of professionals, probably get more help on here to be honest 

[Greyhoundgal]

Kerrieann, I started to take the turmeric capsules after prescription anti-inflammatories gave me a very upset tummy.  It was my nurse who recommended them as she had an allergy to the other meds.  I found them to be very gentle but they did work - H&B do them, not very expensive so why not get just a small bottle and give them a try?  I always have a tub handy these days although now with all my exercising I very rarely need to take them.

[kerrieann]

greyhoundgal, i have been doing the stretching exercises from the physio since monday, as many times a day as i can, which is usually 3 times, and i have got to say that it feels great when i have finished, but after about an hour this wears off, now i don't really get this  does that mean that if i keep going it will get better and better?
Sorry to be a pain but i know you have been where i am today ie can hardly walk without pain and we are going away in 3 weeks, last year this groin pain ruined the holiday as i couldn't walk anywhere, so i am trying very hard to do as iam told, hoping for some improvement in 3 weeks.
I know this is not a quick fix but do you remember how long after you started exercising that you felt any benefit?
I will be getting the turmeric as i defiantly cant take ant anti inflammatory.  kerrie

[CLKD]

Turmeric is used to ease gut inflammation.
When I was in the Hospital we told patients to do their exercises on the hour every hour for 10 mins.; knowing that they would forget half the time!  What were you advised?
Hip pain is always localised in the groin area.
Referred pain can 'go' anywhere  .
We evolved upright - wrongly so.  If you look at chimps they walk slightly hunched and forwards!!! low back pain is difficult to manage.  You are 'going' the right way to getting some relief but it won't happen overnight.
Do you have a cycle?  Can you go swimming - non weight bearing exercise can help as it exercises other parts of the body.  It is important to keep any extra weight off!
Are you wearing 'those' particular shoes - as the physio said to do?  Shoes can make a huge difference to our back and hip problems as wrong gait can mean that other parts of the spine compensate.

[kerrieann]

clkd, the physio told me to do the exercises several times a day? i have been doing them 3 or 4 times a day.
The pain is in my groin, sometimes 1 side sometimes both, saw my gp today and he said its either coming from my hips or lower back, not very helpful  I can tell you that the pain is the worst when i try to open my legs wide (no jokes thanks  ) ,when i get in or out of the car or when i climb into or out of the bath, and the pain is right in the groin, it feels bruised.
I don't have a cycle no, i gave away my exercise bike  I could go swimming but it means me getting someone to take me and wait, as i took my car off the road at christmas so i am not driving at the moment, and i hate being a pain and putting on people, but i will be swimming alot on holiday in 3 weeks time, that how i spend my holiday 
I have been wearing the correct shoes yes every day now for nearly 3 weeks, as for the weight yes i need to loose some but without being able to walk its difficult and i have put more weight on this year since this groin pain began.   kerrie

[CLKD]

You Go Girl!  Get into that holiday mood and swim, swim, swim: remind me; where are you going? Packed yet?

It's early days with regards the exercise regime.  The muscles get lax and with pain the body compensates in posture so it puts strain on parts we don't know we own  ..........

Your GP is right.  Lower back pain can be referred.  There are lots of muscles and nerves in those areas! When you aren't wearing those shoes what is on your feet?  I slop around in slippers  which is probably bad for me.  I hate bare feet though ........

[kerrieann]

For 3 weeks i have wore orthaheel sandals, which have an orthotic built in, and on wet days i have worn trainers also with an orthoheel insole, i am being very good 
We are going to majorca, went last year and like it, so going back, haven't packed yet no, but i have in my mind if you get my meaning, i know what iam taking and where everything is.
I just hope that if i keep doing the exercises 3 times a day the pain will be a little easier in 3 weeks time, i have got some turmeric and started them today, so don't know if there is much more i can do.  kerrie

[CLKD]

Sometimes the container itself is the problem with the gut, not the ingredients  - DH uses Turmeric in his curries
Ginger is a good antiseptic as is honey 

[kerrieann]

hi all, feel so fed up  some of you may know we follow our local football team around the country have done for years and we love it, well today was our first home game and it was a good one, BUT i have been in absolute agony, it's a 10 min. walk from the car into the ground, all uphill and for the first 45 mins i was sitting and standing, as you do when it gets exciting everyone stands, but god, by half time i didn't know what to do with myself, my hips were killing.
We have just got back in the house now and i am sitting on the sofa, and there's no pain a bit stiff but nothing much, so sick of this i am.
I asked my gp yesterday to change my blood pressure meds, but he said it's not them causing the back and groin pain, so how come every time i google it people say that they have had terrible back and hip pain on olmesartan and the patients leaflet lists back pain as a side effect.
What would you do ladies ??

[Taz2]

I think that the pain from blood pressure medications is more constant. The fact that yours eases when you are sitting does point to a problem with your spine or your hips. Hip problems cause groin and lower back pain which worsens on standing and walking. The exercises you have been given should help in this respect and maybe your GP is waiting to see how you feel after a few weeks of doing them? A change in blood pressure medication can cause other problems and if your blood pressure is being well controlled on this particular one I can see why the GP is reluctant to change. I appreciate how frustrating it is though.
Hip pain info http://www.londonbridgeorthopaedics.co.uk/london-orthopaedics-hip-symptoms/   

Taz x

[kerrieann]

The gp has changed the 1 medication which was the water tablet, as when i take it with the olmesartan it brings my blood pressure down too low, so i am still on the olmesartan, which has the side effect of back pain, plus a new 1 to replace the water tablet.
I will continue with the exercises, although not tonight as i feel as stiff as a board, so will have a hot bath later for that.
I think the problem is that i feel i am getting somewhere, and then when i go out somewhere and walk i realize i am no further forward 

[CLKD]

You are trying to run before you can walk  - the first muscles to 'go' are those in the thigh i.e. quadriceps.  If a person does less exercise they lose structure fast.  You walked today and you are pain free on sitting.  Do the exercises then have a bath.  Same again tomorrow.  Little steps 

[kerrieann]

ok will do 

[CLKD]

Lots of bubbles, Very Good Book and a cuppa 

[Greyhoundgal]

greyhoundgal, i have been doing the stretching exercises from the physio since monday, as many times a day as i can, which is usually 3 times, and i have got to say that it feels great when i have finished, but after about an hour this wears off, now i don't really get this  does that mean that if i keep going it will get better and better?
Sorry to be a pain but i know you have been where i am today ie can hardly walk without pain and we are going away in 3 weeks, last year this groin pain ruined the holiday as i couldn't walk anywhere, so i am trying very hard to do as iam told, hoping for some improvement in 3 weeks.
I know this is not a quick fix but do you remember how long after you started exercising that you felt any benefit?
I will be getting the turmeric as i defiantly cant take ant anti inflammatory.  kerrie

Sorry for the late reply, haven't been on line over the weekend.  I'm glad to hear you're doing the exercises - they might hurt a little while you're doing them but will have a good effect in the long run.  I think mine felt noticeably better after about a month so fingers crossed you'll be in less pain by the time you go away.  Another thing I ended up buying (and wished I'd got one years ago) was a TENS machine - I got mine from a Lloyd's pharmacy and it was quite reasonably priced (under £40) - you just stick the pads on the bits that hurt, switch it on and it pulses away doing it's thing.  It might be worth seeing if you can get hold of one, either rent one or buy one if you can - I use mine about once a month now just to keep everything working but have to say I honestly think the exercise has been the biggest help to me.  If you are still in real pain about a week before your holiday it might well be a good investment to pay to see a private physio - the one I saw was much better than the one I was referred to through the NHS.