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[CLKD]

Nope.  But if you have been resting then you back muscles will become lax.  Also this heat makes the body compensate in ways we are not always aware of.  Mine hurts occasionally.  My legs ache too.  Restless legs are a  nuisance at night. 

Keep up with the ice packs and move around as much as you are able to.

[Rowan]

For you CLKD  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTPDtYKTZ1c

[CLKD]

   never heard of that particular area .......... periformus?  Off to do more googling 

[kerrieann]

hi all, update on the back, hip problem,  had a cancellation today with a physiotherapist at local hospital, she was very thorough, checked everything from feet up to neck.
She said on my notes i had some arthritis in hip and lower back, some degeneration of lower back.
The first thing she asked was how long have i been wearing orthotic sandals, i told her i had found them out as i haven't worn them for about 5 years when i had plantar fascilitis, and she said that i must wear them all the time as my feet roll inwards, which in turn throws my knees inwards, then my hips which pulls my back out.
She took her shoes off and showed me the insole she was wearing, told me to get some for my normal shoes, as her feet are the same.
Basically after examination she said that all my muscles had locked up tightly and that i have to do stretching exercises for 2 weeks and she will see me then and see how things are when the muscles are free.
Not sure what to make of it all but i will be doing the exercises and see what happens.
Any thoughts ladies ??

[CLKD]

What are your thoughts?  Sounds like she knows her stuff.  Did she suggest swimming as a non-weight bearing exercise?

Take off your shoes and draw round your feet on a sheet of paper - then look to see how your feet splay/? ........ and please DO the exercises!

[kerrieann]

hi clkd, well what she said seems to make sense, but i suppose i will have to see what the exercises do in the 2 weeks    she didn't suggest swimming no, i do know i have a problem with my feet i can see it when i stand and look in the mirror i haven't got flat feet but they do sort of flop in at the sides.
I have done the set of exercises once this afternoon and i will do them again after my bath in a minute before bed, anything to get rid of this hip pain and be able to walk again without pain.

[CLKD]

It won't happen over-night so don't look for a sudden cure!  It is probably to build up the calf muscles in order to help gait. 

[kerrieann]

clkd, the exercises she has given me are for my back and hips, such as lying face down and arching my back and when sitting on the floor pushing my knees to the floor to open up hips, she said that everything is tight and it needs to be freed up, but like you say it won't happen overnight so i will keep going at them  gotta be better than drugs to mask things, if it works.

[kerrieann]

hi all, got up this morning really cheesed of with this low back hip pain, so i rang the surgery and have an appointment at 3.30 today with a prescribing nurse, out of all the people i have seen 2 chiropractors, osteopath 2 gps no one can actually point to anything which is causing this groin pain when i walk.
I have done the ice and rest thing for 2 weeks, i have done the stretching exercises i have had x rays and there is just no improvement.
I have spoken to my gp several times re the side effect of low back pain from my blood pressure medication and he says it's not that, well several times i have googled olmesartan (benicar) and found loads of people that have had this problem with it so i am going to tell them i want something else even for my own peace of mind, i need to know that i am not taking a drug every day which is causing this problem.
Sorry for the rant but i've had enough, its a beautiful day here today and other half has just gone off with the dog to walk in the woods and i am stuck here as i know i will be in pain if i go.
Not feeling sorry for myself just angry as i can't get to the bottom of this, will let you know what the nurse does.  kerrie

[Taz2]

Groin pain is common when you have lower back pain Kerrieann - it is called referred pain and you need to target the cause of the back pain i.e. did the x-ray show any wear and tear of the spine or hip - to alleviate the groin pain.

I can see how frustrating it is - have you been given anti inflammatories to take as well as the exercises and ice pack treatment. It can take a long time to sort out back problems unfortunately.

Taz 

[kerrieann]

I can't take anti inflammatory due to stomach and blood pressure meds, they have given me all sorts of pain relief which totally knocks me out so i can't see the point, if i sit and rest there is no pain, only when standing for a while and when walking.
The x rays showed mild degeneration of lower back and 1 hip but all the professionals that i have seen say that i have good hip movement so its likely coming from lower back.
I mat be clutching at straws thinking that its a side effect but i have read so many comments on it and i have always had a big problem with medication of any sort i must be sensitive    So i need to change the tablets just to prove to myself.  kerrie

[Taz2]

I would think that a slight degeneration in the lower back may be enough to cause problems when walking and the groin pain could be because you are compensating in some way for the back pain i.e. you hold yourself more tensely when you walk without realising it and this puts pressure somewhere else leading to a referred pain.

It stands to reason I suppose that it worsens when standing or walking because there will be more pressure on the worn discs and they sort of grate together. Not very technical sorry! A course of exercises is necessary to build up the strength in the lower back - if your muscles are strong than this can help with any type of spine degeneration but I can appreciate that it takes a while to begin to work. This site mentions the fact that with spinal degeneration the symptoms will worsen when walking or standing but are relieved by sitting or lying down http://www.physioadvisor.com.au/8389550/spinal-degeneration-degenerative-spine-back-ar.htm

I can see that you would like to try a different blood pressure medication and if it weren't for the fact that your x-ray showed that you do indeed have degeneration in the lower back I might think you have a point but I think your symptoms point to wear and tear. It's a shame that you haven't been given a follow up appointment with someone who can advise you on how to manage it. You might find that if you do change your medication then you would get different side effects 

Taz

[Greyhoundgal]

I have disc degeneration in my lower back and the pain it caused me was unbelievable - some days all I could do was lay on the floor and cry it was so bad.  I took turmeric capsules for the inflammation that work really well (my nurse suggested them) but I have to say it's starting to exercise that has really started to sort it out.  It hurt like hell when I first started but 9 months down the line I'm better than I've ever been and no longer take anything for it.  I'd definitely push for a different medication though as the one you're on could well be causing some of your problems.

[kerrieann]

Taz, yes i do have a mild degeneration of the spine, but all the proffesionals that i have seen have said that its not enough to cause this much pain, i am certainly no wimp, but this groin pain when i walk is horrendous after just 10 or 15 min walk, they have seen the xrays and i can only go on what they tell me.
As far as the medication is concerned they are not working as they should i am on the lowest dose plus a water  tablet and if i take them both every day my pressure is too low, so i take the water tablet every other day and its ok, but go not happy with me doing that, they also have side effects of sinusitis and very blurred vision which i have put up with, so i may well get side effects from a different drug but i can't really think of one which is worse than not being able to walk, IF that's whats causing it.

Greyhoundgal, when i do the stretching exercises it feels good, but it doesn't last so maybe when i have been doing them for a few weeks i will see improvement, what do you think? I will go and get some turmeric capsules when i have seen the nurse today and give them a try.  kerrie

[kerrieann]

  oh i am so angry, went to see nurse at 3.30 as i was told to do on the phone, re changing my blood pressure medication, once in there she said hi have you come for your blood pressure check ? i explained to her that i had come to change my tablets as i wanted to make sure this back pain wasn't a side effect from them and she told me that she couldn't change my medicine only the gp.
She apologized for the receptionist who gave me the appointment and said she would be going to give her a dressing down for it as she should know that the nurse can't change medication.
What goes on in this country today is no one capable any more ?
Anyway i have an appointment tomorrow at 5.00 with gp so lets hope he knows what he's doing.
Bad day today i might even have an indian takeaway tonight to cheer me up