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[Jubilee]

Perhaps this has been covered before but I had a wee search and couldn't find anything .
I read in another forum of the successful use of Carlsons Vit E suppositories for this condition one of the posters also said that she empties the contents of a DHEA capsule and rolls the e suppository ( which is oily)  in the contents and inserts it claiming that it helped greatly with this condition
I suffer from this too and (although not sexually active as was discussed before in a previous thread ) I get like sharp pains like being cut at times , so very dry ..I do use Vagifem but feel its not enough to keep moist

My question to you knowledgeable Folk ..
Have any members heard about the use of the capsule with this suppository - and also what is the benefit of the DHEA either oraly or in this way ? x

[CLKD]

I have bounced a thread about vaginal atrophy and Vagifem in another 'room' ....... but being meno-brained I can't remember which 'room' 
 

[Suzi Q]

I think mixing the 2 together could be ill advised
Sweets go back to GP have a good natter
It maybe you do need more please see your Doctor xxxxxxxxx

[Jubilee]

I think mixing the 2 together could be ill advised
Sweets go back to GP have a good natter
It maybe you do need more please see your Doctor xxxxxxxxx

Thanks for response , I don't think I'd try DHEA without medical advice I just wondered in any other members had tried this combination , I certainly hadn't heard of it used in this way , I know its available in various health food stores but used as a suppository is not advisable I would think ... I can recommend the Carlsons E suppositories they really are good and safe IMHO 

[Suzi Q]

Good your not a GP neither are we best to be safe
You dont say how many and what strength your using if its 10m 2x7
Try 3x7 for a week see how it works even 4
Because Im still on 2x25 here in Ozz got 8 boxes OK till June 2015
Thats what we were all on till the lowered the dose to 10  xxxxxxx

[Jubilee]

Good your not a GP neither are we best to be safe
You dont say how many and what strength your using if its 10m 2x7
Try 3x7 for a week see how it works even 4
Because Im still on 2x25 here in Ozz got 8 boxes OK till June 2015
Thats what we were all on till the lowered the dose to 10  xxxxxxx

I am on 25m X 2 weekly and still feel dryness and almost like a cutting pain up there ..I've only got one box left and thats my lot I'm told as its still not recommended long term I'm told by my GP ..so I feel there worse to follow so clutching at straws by asking about the combination below  - "Sigh " menopause and all its problems xx

[Taz2]

Your GP has got it wrong though - it is recommended for long term use as it is such a low dose of oestrogen. Even on the higher dose I needed both that and full HRT to stop the soreness and the razorblade type pain. I hope you get something sorted soon. Don't be fobbed off with the "not for long term use" excuse though. It used to be that you were advised to have a break every few months but the company changed their advice on this and then they dropped the dose so it must be safer than ever now!

Taz x

[Suzi Q]

Get the info on the net and print it out and take it with you
Explain that you dont need to feel this pain if he poo poes it do what my pals did
She said imagine everytime you peed you felt it was like broken glas
Imagine your testicles aching and throbbing 24/7 with a red hot feeling over all the area
Her GP gave her Vagifem asap that very day and a rpt for 4 boxes

[Jubilee]

This is a link to what my original post was about , its seems to say that DHEA is  suitable to be used in that way , and will help the Vaginal walls by strenghtening them .
You know I am tempted to try although would discuss with doc first
Appreciate members thoughts on this after reading
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/331.html

I somehow don't think my Doc would listen to me or even read anything i take along , none of them have any sympathy for the females problems post menopause ...
And I suppose as I don't need moisture for intimacy as there is none available I shouldn't be pushy and keep asking , I am not likely to need a moist vajay any more anyway sadly    - thanks all

[Suzi Q]

Change you Doctor imediatly
You paid taxes all your life thats what pays their wages
Just imagie that here in Ozz not! Gps set up their own surgeries patisnt pay them av price 30pounds a visit
You get 17pounds back if hes not nice oir she you go to another its callled Doctor shopping as many GPS as you like
 If theythey arent nice have no sympathy  no kindness then you sod off they then loose money
Yes it does mostly come down to money in UK they dont have to be nice sympathetic cos the NH pays them anyway
Doesnt mean you get the drugs you want here but they listen they dont thnk they are Demi Gods
They have to go on reg courses otherwise they dont get a Licence to be a GP imagine that in UK hehehe
You go love you bloody DEMAND help just cos your not having sex doesnt mean you have to suffer pain
Boy hes lucky hes not seeing me heheheh xxxxxxxxxxxx

[Hurdity]

Hi jubilee

I had a quick look at the link - it's an American site and there is a different healthcare system over there - and everything has to be paid for unlike here - free at the point of care or similar.

Personally I don't see the point of using DHEA - it is a precursor of tesotsterone and oestrogen in the body and it is not possible to determine which it will be converted to.

As Taz says some women need both HRT and vaginal oestrogen to keep things healthy and stop the pain. I use HRT ( patches), together with a vaginal oestrogen (Orthogynest pessaries) and also sometimes I rub on oestrogen cream (Gynest) for a few days when it gets a bit sore.

Look at the menu on the left and you can defo use Gynest cream with Vagifem as it is oestriol which is very weak. http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/local.php

Also I agree with Suzi Q you shouldn't have to suffer just because intimacy not happening - there are all sorts of other problems eg with bladder, infections etc that happen when the oestrogen doesn't work so well and skin and tissues thin out.

Can you find a doc in your practice who specialises in meno/gynae/women's issues?

Hurdity x

[CLKD]

Do you get a repeat prescription for the pessaries Hurdity?

[Suzi Q]

Sex I thnk is the least of Atrophy trouble
Anyone can grit their teeth and put up with the pain for 10mins o so
Its the other poain the dryness the feeling of aching buring peeing OH i cold go on xxxx
But my thumbs in a splint got Trigger thumb 2 months at least in a splint all thanks to a KINDLE and the repetative click

[Hurdity]

Do you get a repeat prescription for the pessaries Hurdity?

Yes all my HRT is on repeat (patches, Utrogestan, Orthogynest pessaries, Gynest cream) , although I can't seem to get Vagifem on the same prescription as Orthogynest pessaries as they do the same thing. I use the Vf when I am using vaginal Utrogestan (at night) every 2 months and the Orthogynest pessaries (which I use for most of the time) fall out if I use them in the morning! How could anyone survive if they weren't on repeat? It would be a pain to keep having to go to the doc....

Hopefully everyone else gets everything on repeat too once settled onto the right type?

Hurdity x

[Hannah1]

I am on Vagifem plus Gynest cream to rub on the outside if I get any irritation but my GP will not give me any longer than a 6 months supply as she said she has to see me regularly whilst being on it.  I am not on any other form of HRT.

This regime of 2 x 10 per week of vagifem and once a week with the Gynest cream is working well for me at the moment.

Hannah