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[Anne B]

Hi Ladies
Just the same as yesterday. Forced myself to take a walk to the riverside which is only 10mins walk but by the time got back was absolutely exhausted. This hysterectomy has taken so much out of me which I certainly wasn't expecting. The flushing and palpitations have started again. Away to lie down for a wee while.
As the day progresses I hope you all feel better.

Anne B

[CLKD]

"Haven't the heart to tell her that 6 months of this has made me sick of the sight of it  .... "     M in L did the same, if we said we liked something we got it for years 

Anne B - take it steady.  If you had a broken leg    ........ it's a major operation and it takes the body time to recover.  Enjoy your doze ...... I was told after surgery not to lift anything heavier than a drinking straw 

[Horsie]

Hi Paisley, sorry that today is such a bad day for you. Do you think anything in particular brings it on and is it cyclical? I've tried keeping a diary to see if mine is but can't really draw any conclusions - all I know is that I HATE feeling like this with a passion - I'd trade it for a physical illness. One question: Can you go to the pharmacy and get beta blockers without a prescription as I thought that you had to have one? Is it different in Spain?
I hope that you can distract yourself and feel better as the day goes on.
Best Wishes x

[paisley]

Thanks Horsie,
How are you today?
Weird thing is before stopping ADs it was cyclical would feel okay for about 2 weeks then 1 week feel awful but how can that be as I  had a full hyster last May. After 5 weeks can it still be partly the ADs still in my system. I read somewhere that it can take 1-7 weeks for the effects to go.
Yes in Spain you can go into the pharmacy and ask for things over the counter, I have got hrt, ADs, doesn't seem very safe does it? I have been here nearly a year and haven't registered with a doctor yet.
I know what you mean about physical over mental, I can cope with physical things far more than mental. To me this is like a form of torture as just as you feel a little better  that is when it comes back again.
I look at others and wonder why they are so happy and why aren't I like that. I also feel annoyed cos some people just take 1 hrt and wham back to normality and I feel like the one that is left behind.
Feel like I am wallowing now.

[mac]

Hi ladies

Sorry your all having such a bad time.  I am better but think it'll be a while before I am me   saw my GP yesterday, feels i should continue on the AD's, which i am happy to do, and the propanalol as and when needed but still taking them on a daily bases at the moment.  Have managed to drive again and go into town on my own    if someone had told me i would be like this i would have thought they were mad!!
I am getting on a train at 6 tonight to get my flight home tomorrow and i am terified, how stupid
am I.  The thought of being on my own is scary. Its irrational thoughts like, what if i get ill when I'm away, what if i make a fool of myself, but I have to go for the sake of my Mum.

Take care ladies.

Will let you know how i get on.

Macxx

[JJ]

Mac you sound like you've made progress.x

Paisley I didn't realise you could get meds like ads and beta blockers over the pharmacy counter in Spain, do you have to chat with pharmacist first or do you just get them off the shelf. Much more lenient than here isn't it. I'm on my fourth or is my fifth horrid day - muzzy meno head can't even remember . Pft..........

[Horsie]

JJ, Paisley, Mac and Ann B - I'm thinking of you all and sending Best Wishes and a  to help you through difficult times.  At least we all know that we're not alone and can come here for understanding and support.
I'm not so bad today and am very slowly trying to be more positive and happy (even when I don't feel like it) because I think that I'm wallowing in my own misery which makes it hard for everyone round me.  x

[paisley]

Thanks Horsie so glad you feel a bit better today.
JJ sorry you are also having a bad day. You can't get them off the shelf, you have to ask the pharmacist. A friend last year had run out of her anti biotics and she went to the pharmacy and got some. I do go to this pharmacy regular I don't know if that helps, haven't even got a doctor here yet but I am afraid have no faith in doctors any more.

[JJ]

Paisley,You could do with finding a doc there, but I'm not sure how it works in Spain, (it is Spain isn't it ?) must be so difficult for you if you've only recently moved there, do u have any friends/family out there? Menopause sucks, I've had a really really god run but am sinking a bit at mo, trying to be patient and waiting for it too pass though, which it usually does, but then there's that nagging what if it doesn't . Couldn't even face tea tonight so I'm going to have to snack.

[paisley]

Can't really face the thought of Spanish doctor as it is bad enough with an English one. I have husband, 20 year and 4 year old son here. My daughter is in U.K as she has a good job there but really miss her. I feel it is like starting a new life again which I suppose doesn't help with meno.
I really hope your day is better tomorrow.

[CLKD]

Of course you miss her but that's the point of parenting - bring 'em up and let 'em go  .  It's the travelling which gets to me these days it's no longer a hop in the car and visit anyone, so much planning has to take place to keep me within my comfort zone 

Paisley - when do you get a visit from your daughter?

[JJ]

Paisley, I can understand the missing your daughter , I'd be the same. I'm used to my two children not living at home but another country .....now that would take some getting used to. I bet your other two keep you busy.

Sorry going completely off topic now , but I can't stop eating sweet stuff today, why does this happen when I get the jitters and the jitters always come first . Weird - apologies I'm rambling .

How long have you been living in spain, such a lot to get used to cant be easy with meno as well

[paisley]

Hi,
   thanks for your kind words.
My daughter is coming for a holiday beginning of August. We have lived here since last August 2011. It's the starting over, can't be bothered making new friends, feels like I am at school again and they all seem really clicky, and they are mostly young mum's and I am 48 year old surgical menopausal woman with a 4 year old, they would never understand that concept. I am not bothered about meeting new mum's thought I was till I met them. Feel like I have been there, done that all before.
JJ I am going through a sweet phase too

[JJ]

I'm hoping we have good sleep tonight and today better .

[CLKD]

Your 4-year old however will need to make friends and learn the language.  Is there a group of 3-5 year olds close by?  How about a Library?