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[Debthemavis72]

Dear all ,

My name is Debbie I'm 52 and I've been Perimenopause since 2017 .
I still have periods , 3 weekly
I'm wondering if anyone can help ...?
Please bear with me it's a long story ..

In 2017 , completely out of the blue , I started getting , Anxious !! About nothing .. just odd feeling .(. I have had anxiety as a teenager but not really since ,)

Actually started at bingo , went to start a game and realised I'd. Forgot my glasses ..
And could feel this panic starting ..
Getting more annoyed with myself and I couldn't seem to control it ...THAT WAS THE START OF THIS HELL ...😞
Days went on , and things would panic me , .uneasy feeling ... Had no idea what was wrong ..
I started to think was going crazy ..I mean why is this happening, What's wrong with me ..,?
.
I went into deep anxiety attacks and was told. Was having mental breakdown  ....

I've been on antidepressants since age 24 , and occasionally had bad times ..but this was something else , dred fear , panic attacks , couldnt  eat or sleep ... Life was hell ..

My meds was changed, but not once was perimenopause mentioned ... The new meds helped me sleep , and I improved very slowly ..
I kept searching the internet , why this would happen why I was feeling so odd , numb , anxious!! All time ..
I saw a article on menopause , ... Thought what that sounds like me ... Could I be going thro menopause?? ... I mean menopause is just hot flushes right ? .
I went drs so many times as was made to feel I was going mad ... No empathy at all ..and he said wasn't menopause I'm way too young..(.43)

At this point I decided , I will do this alone ..and never told anyone else how bad I was feeling again ..
I never in my life would of thought ... perimenopause could change me so much ..
I have always been so happy , calm confident and now I'm a shell of the girl I once was ...

The symptoms continued, but I learnt to live with them because I have NO CHOICE ....
Even writing this is making me anxious 🙈
I stopped seeing my friends , going out ..
Only saw close family ...and lived in my bubble , longing for me to come back one day ...
 
My daughter kept saying , try hrt ?...but it scared me so much .. I worry about everything and anything .. avoiding conversations if I think may makee feel slightly uneasy.and bring on attack...

Things slightly improved... But I was still so anxious all time .. till 8 pm then it seems to ease..
Last February, I decided to see Dr ...
I wasn't sure I would even start hrt , but got it to see my options ..

Finally , I plucked up the courage and put patch on ... And continued course for about 4 months when I noticed .. I don't feel as anxious? .
Let's not get ahead of my self .. it's early days ..

By last sept , I felt the best I'd felt in 6 years ..
And was so happy .....
My anxiety was still there , but was controlled.
I felt I was living again ..
But , Nov 23 ..... I started feel anxiety was creeping back but , I managed pull back and Christmas was good ...

2 weeks ago , it's started again. ..this awful feeling down bottom my tummy , can't concentrate, over powering worry xxx panic attacks ... .Doom ..
I've researched so much ...but I really don't know what to do ... Should I stick with the patches ..as I can feel it's a dip in my hormones.... I feel different ..
Or is there anything else I could try ..,?
I saw vagifem , maybe could help as I feel I need extra something ..
So sorry it's so long ...and if you have got this far I' thank you !!!
Any advice gratefully received xx
Hot flushes have started now too
Thanks
Much love to all of you
Debbie xxx

[Arya Underfoot]

Hi Debbie
Sorry to hear what you are going through, I can totally relate. My peri started at 38, I've been on HRT for over 7 years and last year things went down hill, I increased my Estrogel and the anxiety just got worse, having lots of panic attacks and crying all the time. Then I decreased my oestrogen and felt worse, so I finally decided to try patches instead. I'm only a few days in and I've just had another really bad panic attack. I have diazepam to get me through it but I'd rather not feel like this at all. All I can suggest is changing your dose or trying a different type of HRT. I can recommend vagifem, it's great for VA symptoms. Don't just put up with these symptoms, keep trying, even supplements and alternative therapies can be helpful.

[Dandelion]

Hi Debbie
Sorry to hear what you are going through, I can totally relate. My peri started at 38, I've been on HRT for over 7 years and last year things went down hill, I increased my Estrogel and the anxiety just got worse, having lots of panic attacks and crying all the time. Then I decreased my oestrogen and felt worse, so I finally decided to try patches instead. I'm only a few days in and I've just had another really bad panic attack. I have diazepam to get me through it but I'd rather not feel like this at all. All I can suggest is changing your dose or trying a different type of HRT. I can recommend vagifem, it's great for VA symptoms. Don't just put up with these symptoms, keep trying, even supplements and alternative therapies can be helpful.

Sorry to hear you are going through this. Have you tried testosterone? I found that the oestrogen and progesterone were not fully getting rid of my symptoms and about a month ago. I started on testosterone and I'm waiting and looking forward to an improvement in how many women say it is a game changer.

[kimla10]

Morning / Afternoon everyone
Think i should've been on here ages instead of coping and shouting to myself    a couple years ago i got angry for no apparent reason and cracked my favourite clock my parents got me from Germany and that snapped me out of anger!

around 2020 people in office my age used to say 'Kim are you in menopause yet?"  i said "no i don't think i'll get it"  ha ha so around Covid with homeworking i started watching Menopause Barbie on You Tube and OMG found out a lot! i am now 59 still running around like i'm 20 but seems i started all this stupid menopause late or turning vegan around 2020 kept me on an even keel hormonal wise. Also took up running and using Couch2 5K app. i enjoy running but as working at home tend to workout running indoors. i have done challenges so did train outside as i live in a green belt.

i do have Estriol cream but otherwise touch wood been okay until now. i think its a case of bloatedness. i thought menopause belly or could be a mixture.Was only thinking this last week - bloatedness is a Symptom and never been able to grab fat and its scary. i am wellbeing champion at work so i need to sort this so i can advise others. i can't deal with meno belly because i hate being slowed down so i use cling film to compress it. i know this is wrong but i can't deal with this weight because nr 1 its flipping dangerous and 2 don't try to slow me down! Menopause is stupid and makes no sense to women who have never been able to have kids in first place. its no common sense. Also you need a masters in science to figure it out. i am only good at technology, art & fitness so that's out for me :))))

i also do exercises daily. at present doing 31 day squat challenge. i am Hybrid - as in homeworking most days
Mon - term time teach disabled man Art - Adult Ed
Tues - eves - IT session with older adults Adult Ed voluntary at mo as college funding let us down. i am looking for work in this area as its been voluntary for almost 2 yrs now.
Wed - Apr-Sept Crown Green bowing in eves
Thus - Bible study group 1930
Fri - my free day
Sat - Apr-Sept AM practice Crown Green bowling  PM out w my friend shopping then Bible study online

My next challenge is Mediterranean Diet along with this https://bodybybikini.passion.io/app/products  -  thinking of doing this (already doing the free one) What does everything think? Strength training seems to be key i think??

Hello all and happy Tuesday - have a blessed day! Big hugs

[Dandelion]

Morning / Afternoon everyone
Think i should've been on here ages instead of coping and shouting to myself    a couple years ago i got angry for no apparent reason and cracked my favourite clock my parents got me from Germany and that snapped me out of anger!

around 2020 people in office my age used to say 'Kim are you in menopause yet?"  i said "no i don't think i'll get it"  ha ha so around Covid with homeworking i started watching Menopause Barbie on You Tube and OMG found out a lot! i am now 59 still running around like i'm 20 but seems i started all this stupid menopause late or turning vegan around 2020 kept me on an even keel hormonal wise. Also took up running and using Couch2 5K app. i enjoy running but as working at home tend to workout running indoors. i have done challenges so did train outside as i live in a green belt.

i do have Estriol cream but otherwise touch wood been okay until now. i think its a case of bloatedness. i thought menopause belly or could be a mixture.Was only thinking this last week - bloatedness is a Symptom and never been able to grab fat and its scary. i am wellbeing champion at work so i need to sort this so i can advise others. i can't deal with meno belly because i hate being slowed down so i use cling film to compress it. i know this is wrong but i can't deal with this weight because nr 1 its flipping dangerous and 2 don't try to slow me down! Menopause is stupid and makes no sense to women who have never been able to have kids in first place. its no common sense. Also you need a masters in science to figure it out. i am only good at technology, art & fitness so that's out for me :))))

i also do exercises daily. at present doing 31 day squat challenge. i am Hybrid - as in homeworking most days
Mon - term time teach disabled man Art - Adult Ed
Tues - eves - IT session with older adults Adult Ed voluntary at mo as college funding let us down. i am looking for work in this area as its been voluntary for almost 2 yrs now.
Wed - Apr-Sept Crown Green bowing in eves
Thus - Bible study group 1930
Fri - my free day
Sat - Apr-Sept AM practice Crown Green bowling  PM out w my friend shopping then Bible study online

My next challenge is Mediterranean Diet along with this https://bodybybikini.passion.io/app/products  -  thinking of doing this (already doing the free one) What does everything think? Strength training seems to be key i think??

Hello all and happy Tuesday - have a blessed day! Big hugs

Hello
I have that belly fat.
When we lose our oestradiol our body tries to compensate by producing oestrone a less useful type of oestradiol, to compensate.
It is stored in fat cells, so the body lays down fat, especially in the belly area, which you can’t get rid of.
I’ve had it about 15 years.
I’m 58.
I feel as if I’m starting to lose it lately though and the scales tell me I’m starting to lose weight.
I finally started attending to my menopause properly and got on the right HRT regime.’
You can’t exercise or healthy eat your way out of menopause.
Of course those things are needed but nothing replaces oestradiol and our future health is at severe risk as we age without our hormones back because we were not meant to live this long.

[Dandelion]

Dear all ,

My name is Debbie I'm 52 and I've been Perimenopause since 2017 .
I still have periods , 3 weekly
I'm wondering if anyone can help ...?
Please bear with me it's a long story ..

In 2017 , completely out of the blue , I started getting , Anxious !! About nothing .. just odd feeling .(. I have had anxiety as a teenager but not really since ,)

Actually started at bingo , went to start a game and realised I'd. Forgot my glasses ..
And could feel this panic starting ..
Getting more annoyed with myself and I couldn't seem to control it ...THAT WAS THE START OF THIS HELL ...😞
Days went on , and things would panic me , .uneasy feeling ... Had no idea what was wrong ..
I started to think was going crazy ..I mean why is this happening, What's wrong with me ..,?
.
I went into deep anxiety attacks and was told. Was having mental breakdown  ....

I've been on antidepressants since age 24 , and occasionally had bad times ..but this was something else , dred fear , panic attacks , couldnt  eat or sleep ... Life was hell ..

My meds was changed, but not once was perimenopause mentioned ... The new meds helped me sleep , and I improved very slowly ..
I kept searching the internet , why this would happen why I was feeling so odd , numb , anxious!! All time ..
I saw a article on menopause , ... Thought what that sounds like me ... Could I be going thro menopause?? ... I mean menopause is just hot flushes right ? .
I went drs so many times as was made to feel I was going mad ... No empathy at all ..and he said wasn't menopause I'm way too young..(.43)

At this point I decided , I will do this alone ..and never told anyone else how bad I was feeling again ..
I never in my life would of thought ... perimenopause could change me so much ..
I have always been so happy , calm confident and now I'm a shell of the girl I once was ...

The symptoms continued, but I learnt to live with them because I have NO CHOICE ....
Even writing this is making me anxious 🙈
I stopped seeing my friends , going out ..
Only saw close family ...and lived in my bubble , longing for me to come back one day ...
 
My daughter kept saying , try hrt ?...but it scared me so much .. I worry about everything and anything .. avoiding conversations if I think may makee feel slightly uneasy.and bring on attack...

Things slightly improved... But I was still so anxious all time .. till 8 pm then it seems to ease..
Last February, I decided to see Dr ...
I wasn't sure I would even start hrt , but got it to see my options ..

Finally , I plucked up the courage and put patch on ... And continued course for about 4 months when I noticed .. I don't feel as anxious? .
Let's not get ahead of my self .. it's early days ..

By last sept , I felt the best I'd felt in 6 years ..
And was so happy .....
My anxiety was still there , but was controlled.
I felt I was living again ..
But , Nov 23 ..... I started feel anxiety was creeping back but , I managed pull back and Christmas was good ...

2 weeks ago , it's started again. ..this awful feeling down bottom my tummy , can't concentrate, over powering worry xxx panic attacks ... .Doom ..
I've researched so much ...but I really don't know what to do ... Should I stick with the patches ..as I can feel it's a dip in my hormones.... I feel different ..
Or is there anything else I could try ..,?
I saw vagifem , maybe could help as I feel I need extra something ..
So sorry it's so long ...and if you have got this far I' thank you !!!
Any advice gratefully received xx
Hot flushes have started now too
Thanks
Much love to all of you
Debbie xxx

It sounds like you need to increase your patch to feel well again.