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[Karen max]

Hi ladies
I’ve not posted on here for long time but I’m really needing some help, I’m coming 8 yrs post meno and been on hrt for around 6 yrs ( I think ) over the years I’ve been given different pills, gels, patches plus progesterone tablets as I’ve still my womb , im 56 yrs old and from I was given hrt I’ve never felt I’ve got anywhere with it. HRT has changed it few times to different mixers and I’ve upped or lowered does of gel but I’ve never felt any of it helped me apart from keeping sweats away, my mood has always been low, I’ve no motivation no energy, no libido, no feelings apart from feeling numb inside I don’t ever feel happy, excited ect.
I’m thinking am I just one if theses people who HRT don’t work for ??
I’ve suffered brain fog constantly along side no energy
I’m now thinking about tapering down and coming of HRT.
Can anyone offer me any Adriatic all please ?
Thanks for reading my post x

[Nas]

Just solidarity.
I’m in hell right now and can’t see a way out of it all.
My mood is beyond low now and I’m sick of life.

The ladies on here are excellent and will guide you to a hopefully better place ( with or without HRT).

Best of luck.

[sheila99]

Have you tried adding testosterone? It helped my motivation as well as libido. Presumably you've ruled out other causes such as thyroid?

[Menowend]

Hi,

I’m where you are now. I was in anti depressants but weaned myself off them. Now changing to a higher dose of oestrogen as I don’t want to go back on AD’s as they affected my libido. Feel fed up with everything too. I’ve had lots of blood tests to rule other things out so have you been to your g.p to try this. They checked for low testosterone, thyroid issues and auto immune issues. It was good to know I’m healthy otherwise!

[Karen max]

Hi Nas
I fully understand how you feel as I’ve been living this hell for past 7 years seems no light ebd of it, but hopefully we will see better days a head.xx

Hi shella, hrt refused to give me testosterone they said I’d no need for it. Honestly it’s fighting a battle with them regarding menopause xx

Hi menowend, it’s absolutely awful seems we are getting no where, my symptoms are still same as they were at start of post menopause. Xx

[Ermin2trude]

Hello Karen max,

Like Nas, I know exactly how you feel. Lots of lovely ladies are struggling and wondering if HRT is for them, so you are definitely not alone.

I found the side effects of HRT to be too debilitating and I never felt ‘well’ or ‘normal’ or even happy. Most of the time I felt emotionally numb. So I decided the physical symptoms of menopause would be preferable to the living hell I was in and I stopped in July this year.

So far I feel incredibly well. Really normal, happy, my mojo has returned. Happily, apart from a couple of flushes during the first two weeks, I have no return of menopausal symptoms either. I admit I changed my diet (lots of phytoestrogens, minimal sugar) and I’ve added in a good multivitamin, 1000mg linseed capsule and magnesium daily. I would rather take these supplements and eschew cake if it means I can live without HRT and feel like I do at the moment. It’s very liberating. Plus, I don’t have to deal with my GP and getting appointments and the never ending question of ‘is this the HRT or something else’? That really messed with my mind and ramped up the health anxiety.

I wish I could’ve found an HRT regime that suited me, but I have to admit failure and so far, failure is feeling quite good 🤞🏼.

I wish you well with whatever you decide, and remember that only 15% of women take HRT, 85% manage without it. It’s not a magic potion for many.

Ermin x

[Menowend]

Hi all,

Yes, Karen, fed up with it all. Waking feeling dread every day and can’t wait to go back to bed to go to sleep.

Ermin2trude  - having a break from everything sounds very tempting just to see what happens.

Sheila, I feel your pain. Not sure why I’ve nosedived after years of feeling ok on hrt

As you say, things can on,y get better x

[CarolineM]

Hi Karen max,

Not sure if this helps or if you've already done this, but have you looked at the different progesterones you've taken?

I asked for a printout from my surgery of all the meds I'd been on for the last 10 years and when I'd taken them. Then I tracked back to when my moods had been at their lowest and every time it coincided with a progesterone - desogestrel (mini pill), dydrogesterone (femoston) or norethisterone (Evorel Sequi and Conti). One time I ended up on citalopram, probably because of the meds. The numbness over the years was awful, but the worst was not getting excited about anything good that was happening - like flat-lining and just existing.

My HRT nurse recommended thinking about utrogestan (with Evorel) as it's supposed to have fewer side effects, so I thought I'd give it a go as I'd not tried it. The difference in my mood after 3 weeks is incredible - I feel like I did before all this hormone crap started. Sleep isn't brilliant, but I'm getting appropriate good and negative feelings now instead of just wanting everyone to **** off. Fingers crossed it'll still work in a few months.

Sorry to harp on if you've already tried this, and I hope that whatever you decide to do helps you.

Caroline x

[Nick34]

Hi. Just reading through this post as put me off a bit trying it now 🤦‍♀️

I’m 66 never been in hrt still got my womb.
At the start of perimenopause 55
I had what might of been a break down
I had off the scale anxiety, depression, totally wired , couldn’t sleep, couldn’t eat
Lost lot of weight, couldn’t switch off

Gp couldn’t up my antidepressant as I was on the highest dose and had been on them for a good few years where I had good years. Never even mentioned my age, but there again I was that poorly menopausal didn’t enter my head
She refered me to mh team, they gave me a psych who changed my antidepressant to new one !
Perhaps this should of been the time HRT was mentioned instead of the SE of a very strong drug (which I learnt further along the line) venlafaxine

So to the last 2 years , I feel as bad as you ladies, I never happy ! No motivation
Aching legs,hips and back , panic
If fact I hardly want to do anything.

So this week thought 💭 💡
I’ll try hrt, gheed myself up to find
nhs menopause clinic , there’s 1 in the whole place I live . One place I rang that I thought I could go to (not my area)
 8 mths waiting list
Tried ringing st Mary’s Manchester
Nobody is picking up at all
I really think it’s going to be even worse there because it’s a big hospital
So I’m probably wasting my time

Gp Practice has a woman clinic but last time I went there nurse practitioner told me I have prolapse! Without examining me. Just what I told her.
Went to physio who checked me out throughly and said no I haven’t
So I’m reluctant to see her, as she didn’t have the time of day for me

Really don’t wanna up these venlafaxine
As I need to sum up courage one day to get off them successfully
(thou most don’t!)

So I’m really more in the dumps now, as this is exactly me in your post .

Sorry for longggg post, and highjack if your thread

[Karen max]

Hi ermin
Thanks for your info, I honestly think I’m just not suited for hrt, as I said I’ve never felt well taking it and I have been on so many different mixtures of it
I spoke with hrt clinic other day on phone they suggested I try estrogen only patch and 2 mg per night of progesterone, I’ve still not received prescription from my GP as yet so I will give that a try for few weeks see how I feel
Did you just stop hrt or did you tapper down ?
I felt that bad few days ago I went back and stuck Everol conti patch on ( I’ve loads of them ) instead of using the gel and progesterone pill , but I went 2 full day’s Saturday and Sunday with no patch and anxiety was through roof, if it was only the sweats I could cope but anxiety is my biggest symptom from menopause.
I also take high blood pressure meds so I have to be careful what herbal remedies I use
I’m honestly fed up 8 years next month of post menopause and I don’t seem to be getting any easier
Excerise is a no for me as I suffer bad arthritis,fibromyalgia also waiting on knee replacement so my mobility is not great.
Thank you so much for your info 🌸

[Karen max]

Hi Caroline
Thank you for you input, yes I have been on that mixture seems nothing is making me feel anywhere near what I felt before post menopause, I hit through oeri menopause not too bad but exactly a full year after last natural period was when I was hit, feels like the old me has gone and a strange person is inside my body
What a bloody nightmare this post menopause is
Thank you 🌸

[Karen max]

Just solidarity.
I’m in hell right now and can’t see a way out of it all.
My mood is beyond low now and I’m sick of life.

The ladies on here are excellent and will guide you to a hopefully better place ( with or without HRT).

Best of luck.

Bless you it’s such an awful feeling to be living like this, I honestly feel for you as my last 8 years have been hell
Kaz 🌸