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[Kirsti]

Hi
I'm new to the forum, really struggling with Vaginal Atrophy extreme discomfort, burning and urge to go to the toilet, currently off work as I'm in so much discomfort and stressed. I've been on vagifem for over 3 years which was fine until a couple of months ago. A few things happened I had been on oestrogel and Utrogestan continuous for 3 months, so not sure if I'm having a reaction to the Utrogestan, vagifem changed to vagirux and I struggled a bit with this at first but seem to have that sorted now, my mum passed away on New Years day and this literally all kicked in then. I've been using the yes hypoallergenic oil moisturiser but things are just getting worse. Any ideas on what would help, I'm at my wits end 

[Joaniepat]

Hi Kirsti, and a warm welcome to the forum.
I am so sorry to hear about your mum. This could well have an effect on how you are feeling now, as stress does have an impact on VA.
Vagirux is the same as Vagifem as far as I  know, so ought not to make a difference. What is your usual dose? Many women are underdosed at only two a week, you could try using it every day for as long as it takes, then cautiously reduce the dose. The addition of Ovestin on the labia might also help.
Tension in the pelvic floor also impacts how we feel in the "undercarriage", and this includes soreness and the urge to pee (the bulboglossobius muscle can cause that). Assessment by a women's health physiotherapist would help you know if this is part of the problem, and you can be taught techniques to help.
Hope this helps.
JP x

[CLKD]

Welcome.   

Sorry that your Mum has died, with all the paper work etc. that is associated can certainly impact on stress and VA.

I would use the treatment every night.  When I get the need2P I take 2 Nurofen 3 times a day to ease that nip as the urine flow stops.

[Dierdre]

So sorry you have lost your Mum, the stress of all this could have caused a flare up. Trauma and stress will do this everytime.  I would do a reload of the Vagirux and use everyday until this settles down. Stop using the YES oil, this could be causing the irritation if you are sore.
Vagirux is the same ingredients as Vagifem except only 1 applicator so doubt this would be the problem.
I would also try an one dose oral thrush treatment as the stress could have lowered your immune system and symptoms of thrush are simular to a VA flare up, I've been fooled by this before.
Sorry, I don't know anything about Utrogestan but I'm sure someone else will beable to advise on this soon.

[Kirsti]

Thank you for responding.
I have been using the vagirux nightly so will continue with that.
I think I am just hypersensitive to everything at the moment so that is probably making things worse.
We still haven't had my mum's funeral due to so many delays so that is upsetting me and making me anxious too which probably is having an impact. Thanks again for your advice x

[Flossieteacake]

Hello and welcome. I am so sorry you have lost your mum. My heart goes out to you.

Ultrogestan can affect the bladder so if it is bladder symptoms you are experiencing that it could be that but like the others have said, stress causes VA to flare.

[Kirsti]

Thanks flossieteacake
I have an appointment with a gynecologist in a weeks time, so I think for now I will stay on the hrt, keep taking vagirux every day, stop the yes in case that is irritating and take ibuprofen 3 times a day. I've ordered myself a special cushion so I can go back to work and hopefully be slightly more comfortable. Sounds like I might need the cream as well as the vagirux.
Thanks for your help

[Flossieteacake]

Thanks flossieteacake
I have an appointment with a gynecologist in a weeks time, so I think for now I will stay on the hrt, keep taking vagirux every day, stop the yes in case that is irritating and take ibuprofen 3 times a day. I've ordered myself a special cushion so I can go back to work and hopefully be slightly more comfortable. Sounds like I might need the cream as well as the vagirux.
Thanks for your help

They all sound like good ideas. I hope the appointment goes well and you keep us updated.

[CLKD]

If the gynae ain't any help, do ask for an appt to a dedicated menopause clinic - sometimes Consltants don't know a lot more than some GPs!

[Kirsti]

Thanks CLKD
I can't seem to get an appointment with a menopause expert until June so am trying the gynecologist first. Fingers crossed.
I'll keep everyone updated as it is good to share outcomes to help is all x

[Katejo]

Hi
I'm new to the forum, really struggling with Vaginal Atrophy extreme discomfort, burning and urge to go to the toilet, currently off work as I'm in so much discomfort and stressed. I've been on vagifem for over 3 years which was fine until a couple of months ago. A few things happened I had been on oestrogel and Utrogestan continuous for 3 months, so not sure if I'm having a reaction to the Utrogestan, vagifem changed to vagirux and I struggled a bit with this at first but seem to have that sorted now, my mum passed away on New Years day and this literally all kicked in then. I've been using the yes hypoallergenic oil moisturiser but things are just getting worse. Any ideas on what would help, I'm at my wits end 

So sorry to hear about your Mum. I lost mine around the same time of year (many years ago). Stress and upset may well have triggered your symptoms. Can you increase your frequency of Vagifem?

[CLKD]

Let us know how you get on.

[Kirsti]

Hi all
Update on what is going on.
I had my gynae appointment and have been diagnosed with severe vaginal atrophy, also painful bladder syndrome.
I have carried on with the vagifem every night, am using coconut oil instead of the other moisturiser. But my bladder is insane, I feel I need to wee all the time and am incredibly emotional. I've been signed off work as I can't really function. I am still not convinced that the Utrogestan isn't affecting me, wondering whether to stop it for a bit and see if that helps.
I am feeling suicidal to be honest. I have my mum's funeral next week but once I'm through that I don't know if I can carry on.
Can anyone help should i stop the Utrogestan for a bit?

[Flossieteacake]

Hi all
Update on what is going on.
I had my gynae appointment and have been diagnosed with severe vaginal atrophy, also painful bladder syndrome.
I have carried on with the vagifem every night, am using coconut oil instead of the other moisturiser. But my bladder is insane, I feel I need to wee all the time and am incredibly emotional. I've been signed off work as I can't really function. I am still not convinced that the Utrogestan isn't affecting me, wondering whether to stop it for a bit and see if that helps.
I am feeling suicidal to be honest. I have my mum's funeral next week but once I'm through that I don't know if I can carry on.
Can anyone help should i stop the Utrogestan for a bit?

I am so so sorry you are feeling suicidal. I think you should stop the Utrogestan right away as I have heard of members feeling suicidal while taking it. I know you have a lot going on and you recently lost your Mum too which is so painful for you.

VA takes a while to treat so your symptoms not improving just yet is noting to worry about. My VA is also chronic so I understand how horrible it is and how it is ruining your sleep. The best thing is to use your vagifem every day and some find it helps to use two a day when things are bad.

Have you told anybody how you are feeling?

[CLKD]

Contact your GP Surgery now, who may B able to offer some medication to relax your mood.  It's a huge upheaval - a funeral and mourning - with VA on top!   When my bladder nips I take 2 Nurofen 3 times a day for 2-3 days which really helps.  U can add an extra 'vagifem' this afternoon as well as your usual pessary later.  Where is the main problem, on the outer labia or deep inside the vagina?