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[holidaylover]

I've been suffering horrendously with palpitations (I've posted previously) and have been prescribed Bisprolal.  I only started them this week, took two and don't really know if there was much of a difference really.  Two questions for anyone who has taken betablockers for palps, are, should they work right away or is it a gradual thing, and secondly, I had a few glasses of wine last night and I was up all night with the most frightening palpitations I've had.  Could this be a reaction with the betablockers or not?  It doesn't say on the leaflet that came with the tablets that I should avoid alcohol.  My anxiety is off the scale with the worry they are causing.  I'm also taking a PPI as I have ulcer/acid type pain and thought it may all be connected but when I asked the doctor if it could possibly be a hiatus hernia, he immediately said no, a hiatus hernia would not cause palpitations.  I have noticed that my palpitations are most usually after a weekend so there may be a connection to bigger meals I am eating or the wine I am drinking.  Any ideas? 

[CLKD]

Wine could be the reason for the palpitations regardless if you take any medication/not.

Many find that at peri wine goes out the window.  R U taking 'bisprolal' every night/monring?  I had to take mine daily to build up a calming effect.

Have you been prescribed with an ulcer?  Dismissing hiatus hernia is wrong even if the Dr doesn't think that it will cause palpitations.  Have you been seen by an appropriate consultant as HH is common in perimenopause due to muscles relaxing. 

Anxiety may also cause palpitations.

[Tinkerbell]

I am a long time user of betablockers( Atenolol) for palpitations, thanks to congenital heart defect! For me they stop them within about 40 minutes.

[JoannFran]

Hi holidaylover

How are you getting on with the beta blockers? Are you still taking them?

I’m on Bisoprolol 1.25mg for palps and high heart rate and SVT. I found that they lowered heart rate straight away but took a while to build up and work for palpitations. I’m getting them back again now after being on them for 2 months so think my body is used to the dose. It’s the minimum dosage but I’ve been told to wean off them at the end of Feb so I don’t want to increase.

I can’t drink any alcohol at all now. Either on or off beta blockers. Racing heart all night, it’s awful. I didn’t drink a lot anyway but I really miss my weekend glass of red wine 🍷

I know this post was a while ago but just interested to see how you’re getting on with the beta blockers and if they’ve helped you? Xx

[holidaylover]

Hi JoannFran,
I'm still taking the betablockers, Bisoprolol 1.25mg like you.  I'm not really noticing much difference to be honest.  Horrid palpitations on waking this morning!  Some days, admittedly are worse than others so don't know if they may be worse if I were to come off them.  I still have them on a daily basis.  My Doctor has been a bit vague to be honest.  I've had several ECG's which were fine, and had a 24 heart monitor last July.  I recently had a chest Xray which was fine and a blood test which confirmed I didn't have heart failure!!! (Phew).  I am still waiting for the results for the heart monitor believe it or not, although it has been chased up frequently.  But I don't really know where to go next, I'm waiting for an appointment for an endoscopy because I've been having heartburn/acid issues too and wondered if they were connected to the palpitations.  My doctor said no, but I saw another doctor in the practice and he said he would send me for an endoscopy just to check.  After that he said he could check bloods for lack of magnesium, and if I wanted he was happy for me to try HRT.  I mentioned MM to him and how other ladies seemed to have a lot of the same symptoms, and he confirmed that this is indeed a very good website!  It's just all so worrying, exhausting and has sent my anxiety (and now health anxiety) through the roof.  Thinking about the wine, I did have a couple of glasses last night so that is certainly not helping.  Hope you are feeling better x

[CLKD]

Alcohol is a depressant.  It can cause heartburn. 

MayB you need more betablocka? 

[JoannFran]

holidaylover, there's a cardiologist on you tube (york cardiology) he talks about the stomach and palpitation connection.  He has some interesting videos about different types of palpitations and a lot of them have been reassuring to me.  Might be worth a look?

Do you take magnesium?  The Gylcinate is meant to be the one good for palps.  300mg.

Hope you get the endo appointment soon.  I've got a hiatus hernia and I've noticed if it's playing up then my HR is definitely higher!

Hugs xxx

[holidaylover]

JoannFran,
No not taking magnesium at the moment.  If you dont mind me asking what is the brand you use?  Do you think they are ok to take whilst taking the betablocker?
H x

[JoannFran]

I take them with the beta blocker (Bisoprolol).  No problems.    I take Epsilon Life from Amazon.  Make sure its gylcinate.  3 tablets which is 300mg.  I take them with my evening meal.

xxxxxx

[holidaylover]

Thanks JoannFran, going to order some now.

[Nellie2018]

Hi JoannFran,
I'm still taking the betablockers, Bisoprolol 1.25mg like you.  I'm not really noticing much difference to be honest.  Horrid palpitations on waking this morning!  Some days, admittedly are worse than others so don't know if they may be worse if I were to come off them.  I still have them on a daily basis.  My Doctor has been a bit vague to be honest.  I've had several ECG's which were fine, and had a 24 heart monitor last July.  I recently had a chest Xray which was fine and a blood test which confirmed I didn't have heart failure!!! (Phew).  I am still waiting for the results for the heart monitor believe it or not, although it has been chased up frequently.  But I don't really know where to go next, I'm waiting for an appointment for an endoscopy because I've been having heartburn/acid issues too and wondered if they were connected to the palpitations.  My doctor said no, but I saw another doctor in the practice and he said he would send me for an endoscopy just to check.  After that he said he could check bloods for lack of magnesium, and if I wanted he was happy for me to try HRT.  I mentioned MM to him and how other ladies seemed to have a lot of the same symptoms, and he confirmed that this is indeed a very good website!  It's just all so worrying, exhausting and has sent my anxiety (and now health anxiety) through the roof.  Thinking about the wine, I did have a couple of glasses last night so that is certainly not helping.  Hope you are feeling better x

This sounds exactly like me, suffering terribly with palpitations, indigestion, fast HR. I have been off alcohol for 6 months due to it making it feel worse, would get into bed and HR would be so fast and I’d be so aware of it. I’ve also been put on beta blocker (propranolol) which is supposed to help HR and anxiety - does help a bit but doesn’t help with palpitations. I’ve had 24hr ECG and echo both ok they say - but palpitations are feeling more frequent. I think there is a link with this indigestion as even though on PPI when having a bad spell gaviscon does seem to help, also felt worse when I tried to reduce my PPI.
I’m awaiting a chest xray and they have written to gastro to see if they would recommend an OGD.
The other thing is my doctor doesn’t think they are linked to perimenopause and doesn’t think I’m experiencing this yet as my periods are still pretty regular although they are getting a bit lighter and shorter, I’m 42. Could it still be perimenopause? Really want to link the symptoms to something other than a terrible heart condition which is what it feels like sometimes 

[dangermouse]

PPIs can cause palpitations for two reasons.

One is rebound acid reflux as the proton pump powers back up in between doses but the main one, for me, was undigested food sitting on the stomach (from the reduction of gastric acid) that puts pressure on the vagus nerve and causes feedback to the heart to pump faster.

Also a lot of reflux can be from a lack of stomach acid to start with for the same issue as above, so the undigested acids keep refluxing whilst the stomach tries to empty.

Next time it happens have some Coca Cola at the ready (a strong digestive) to see if that breaks down the food and stops the palpitations. Then you will know for sure.