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[Postmeno3]

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[Nas]

Hi mindful,
 Glad you were able to get out and about for a walk with friends; it’s good to get out in the fresh air.

Maybe your HRT regime does need adjusting? You are on a fair whack of Oestrogen theoretically, but are you absorbing it all? If not, maybe that could account for how you are feeling right now?

Hope tomorrow is a better day. This journey is a roller coaster and we have to take the rough with the smooth I think.

Michelle, I’m okay thanks. Tired but it’s almost Friday,
Need a new job, but don’t know what doing !
Just contemplating life right now ! 
How are you ? Xx

[Mindfulmoomins]

Hi Nas,

My last blood test was really high (2200) re oestrogen so it’s hard to say as the one 4 weeks before was 270.

Complicated picture.

I feel low this morning and just so want the empty feeling to go and be replaced with my normal feeling of ease and wellness.

Got a walk with a friend planned and it’s pizza night in our house so that will be nice!

Xx

[Wannabewell]

Morning @mindfulmoomins

So sorry you’re struggling right now, this menopause transition really does suck. I find the low mood (very low, cyclical for me) the worst of it.

Sending you gentle hugs and as much strength as I can muster xx

[Mindfulmoomins]

Thank you so much for your understanding. Sending you love and hugs too. Such a challenging time for so many of us. I wish I could scoop us all up and put us on the other side xxx

[Flan747]

Sorry to hear you continue to feel like this! I too am struggling and am wondering if it is the continuous Utrogestron? Seriously thinking about having short break from it to eliminate it! Feeling empty and fatigued! What a minefield this all is!

[Mindfulmoomins]

It certainly is. I know when I got the balance right last time things slowly and gently started to improve and I began to feel a sense of wellness inside me. I could cry now for the longing for that feeling again. However, I keep trying things and not feeling much better so I am trying to slow down and trust things will shift and my body will find some balance again in its own time. Not at all easy!

Continuous utrogestan would be a nightmare for me I think but I know others do ok on it. I have progesterone intolerance so only took it for 7 days a month vaginally 100 mg and had private scans. Sorry you feel empty and fatigued. That’s exactly how utrogestan made me feel.

Sending you lots of hugs xxx

[Floo36]

I do think your high Estrogen bloods are just fluctuations like mine and you also had a low reading which confirms that the high reading wasn’t the HRT.   It does sound like you need more Estrogen.  We all absorb differently.  It is so hard to get right for some of us. 

[Mindfulmoomins]

Yes possibly Floo. I just don’t know anymore. I am on quite a large amount of estrogen. I was previously well on 4 pumps. I think perhaps the 15 mg mirtazapine helped last time too. I don’t know why it’s not helping now 

[Flan747]

I had a reading of 1056 last month and am on 6 pumps and continuous Utrogestron! I have reduced to 5 even though advised to stick with 6 and added testosterone! I just have found no benefit from 6 pumps so thought I would give 5 a go! Nothing to loose ?? Seriously thinking about doing a short regime of Utrogestron but unsure how I wound start it as still getting breakthrough periods?

[Floo36]

It may not have been the gel that made you feel well but your own hormones rising, I have had the same, I thought it was the gel but it wasn’t it was my own rise in Estrogen.  I didn’t get well but some of the symptoms improved and I even got up to 12 pumps of gel and it made no difference to my symptoms so with a lot of trial and error we worked out that I don’t absorb transdermal and it became obvious because no matter how much I used nothing changed. 

Some of us need extremely high doses to get enough in, I’m on the equivalent of 5 x 100 patches, I’m still not there yet but am seeing improvements from where I was 4 weeks ago.  I was terrified of the amount of Estrogen I am using but i am only replacing what I have lost.

[Mindfulmoomins]

That’s so interesting Floo. How did you know you weren’t absorbing? I think it was symptoms if I am right? When I used 4 pumps of gel lots of other symptoms eased (such as dry skin and sweats and aches) so I imagine I was absorbing and just need more now as I am further along peri xx

[Flan747]

Wow Floo that’s a lot of estrogen 😄 I decided to reduce to see if any other symptoms return and go from there ! I think ideally if they do I may try patches as a lot of gel is so time consuming ! Will keep you posted !

[Floo36]

Could tell by no change in symptoms and I did a lot of bloods to finally get one lower one, they ranged from 400 - 5000pmol on the same amount of hrt.  I won’t do any more Estrogen bloods in peri because of the fluctuations but I wanted to prove that all the bloods I had done previously were not accurate because of the fluctuations in peri, I kept being told my Estrogen was normal when it wasn’t and I was still very ill. 

[Flan747]

That’s so interesting Floo! Maybe I have done wrong by reducing but I just wanted to give this a go first then if some symptoms come back I know I need to increase again! I find it all very stressful! I’m hoping the testosterone will help but we will see