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[Michelle7474]

Tried walking the dog with my son this avo and had a full blown panic attack. Chest pain, tachycardia, hyperventilating into the dog poop bag (without poop in it). Thought I was going to die on the street. Then thinking noone will know how to resuscitate me and I haven't done my will. Has anyone had worsening panic when starting antidepressants??

I hope you feel better now
I was told by my GP to expect aniexty to be heightened when starting antidepressants.. he also told me to take the proponol in hope that it will calm me enough

Apparently it’s a known side effect for first few days
How long have you been on this one ??
He is starting me on half a tablet also to try and ease it in so side effects aren’t too over whelming
Everyone who I spoke to , as said this lasts just a few days

Hope you feel ok & safe now Xx

[Michelle7474]

Thanks for your reply Michelle747. I have been on a 1/4 tab and for a couple of weeks and just started a half last couple of days. Had herbal tea and a hot bath with Mg and lavender. Appreciate your reassurance at this time.
I need to try the beta blocker twice a day also, but worried about triggering a bronchospasm.

I’m glad your ok .. as we all know these attacks go at the time we don’t feel that.
Wonder if it’s because of upping your dose , I hope things settle for you now
And I hope the AD helps you
I’m so petrified of taking them ( silly I know ) it’s just the side effects I’m worried about as I’ve never taken AD before ..
but in myself I know I need help.

I only take one beta blocker as I’m getting it into my system so it’s a new thing for me

Good luck with continuing the AD xx

[CLKD]

Nope.  ADs kicked in: the thing that stopped me taking them, was intense nausea within days  : until I found a drug which worked 

I had no problems stopping Propranolol.  The background headaches disappeared.  Anxiety didn't get worse , fortunately.   If 1 works, stick with that Michelle?  MayB use it for now and begin the ADs next week?  It can take a while for the latter to kick in and if the BB works ......... which AD, may I ask?

When I begin a new medication I take it at night or on a Friday so that I can rest over the weekend.

[Michelle7474]

Nope.  ADs kicked in: the thing that stopped me taking them, was intense nausea within days  : until I found a drug which worked 

I had no problems stopping Propranolol.  The background headaches disappeared.  Anxiety didn't get worse , fortunately.   If 1 works, stick with that Michelle?  MayB use it for now and begin the ADs next week?  It can take a while for the latter to kick in and if the BB works ......... which AD, may I ask?

When I begin a new medication I take it at night or on a Friday so that I can rest over the weekend.

Hi CLKD
Sertraline 25mg for week and then 50mg after
I hope I can handle them
I’ve been taking the proponol each morning for past 3 days
How long before you can take another one ? If I needed too as says I can take 3 x daily 10mg is the dose I’m using

I’m glad your aniexty never came back worse CLKD and I’m glad that your in a better place
Xxx

[Michelle7474]

I have been on AD's in the past Michelle and any withdrawal needs to be done very, very gradually. It's tricky as the tablets can only be broken down so far. I have cut back to a quarter tab today. Very unimpressed with this AD gig. My doc suggested an alternative but they make you fat. Was on one for years that made me prediabetic, sky high cholesterol. I am a sluggish metaboliser though.
All the best with yours! We gotta do what we gotta do to cope.

Hi
This will be my very first try of AD
I’m struggling with sleep since I started Propanol I was never a great sleeper but this is worse  & my burning pain in which I’ve had since June is burning worse it’s near my left ribs & I just don’t know what it is & what too do for the best
I take omperzole daily already
They said will investigate that after getting aniexty under control.
I’ve had about 2 hours sleep & yesturday about 3
I feel awful in myself , waves of nausea and struggling to eat because of this , but nothing I can do
I would call the GP buy everything is put down to aniexty
It’s draining & I ain’t even started the AD yet … jeeeeeeeeez

[Michelle7474]

Perhaps some drowsy antihistamine for a few nights rest may be helpful? That's what I resort to despite the drying effects. Some decent kip helps to lower my adrenaline surges. So very frustrating with the night time pain though, isn't it. I've recently had bouts of diverticulitis pain (usually left sided) and a throbbing knee. Hate this getting old  and decrepit gig. I read seretonin helps with gut motility which might help to counteract any sluggishness caused by progesterone?
I thought you were Michelle 747 like a plane!

Haaa 74 year I was born
I wish I was a plane Id have more motivation lol

It’s tiring & awful .. it’s seems one thing after another & when all this feeling is new to you it becomes too much as in new I mean aniexty since April but so much more intense now
The proponol makes you feel calm but to have no sleep and constantly have this burning & funny feeling near heart area then I’m not sure if I want it but have sent GP message
I walked a flight of stairs and was out of breath that’s never me but then that could be the no sleep taking it’s toll

I will get there with or without this proponol as I have too ..
I’m not too sure what I can and can’t take as I’m on warfarin so I always double check with GP & Pharmacist
 

I’m still laying in bed in any attempt that I can drop off even for just one hour but I know it won’t happen.
I’ve not taken the proponol today yet as I’ll await and see what GP suggests and I only take one a day so I can take later if need be.
And funny enough I don’t feel that anxious yet .. YET lol 😂 

The life of a women …. The joys

[CLKD]

Keep taking the Propranolol.  I always allow 4-6 hours between any medication that I need.  What you are on is slow release so should give benefit.  MayB your brain is overthinking, I used to wake 2 C whether the medication was working  or 2 C if I was in panic mode 

I found that getting out of bed and working through my list of chores, written the previous evening, helped.  Didn't have to actually focus on much except getting to mid-morning when I would improve a little, probably due to breakfast kicking in.

Anxiety can be caused by taking shallow breaths so no wonder you were aware when walking up stairs!

[Hurdity]

Hi Michelle

Sorry to hear about your woes. I haven't read all of the thread - the first couple of pages and a few on this page.

However I really wanted to say that Propanolol is a heart medication - a beta-blocker designed to treat heart problems - but is also used to treat anxiety. However if you have normal or low blood pressure then taking it can lead to side effects indicative of low blood pressure - I would say - like light-headedness, dizziness especially on getting up after bending down etc.

I have normal to low blood pressure and I would NEVER take this medication for this reason - even if I wanted something for anxiety, notwithstanding that others are finding it helpful and without side effects. If you have a BP monitor then I suggest you use it regularly. Try taking 3 BP readings, 3 times a day while sitting down and 30 mins after eating/caffeine etc? Whatever the instructions are anyway. I might be wrong in your case but it sounds like it could be lowering your BP more than desirable?

I hope you feel better soon. Yes don't rule out returning to HRT - it may well be that you haven't yet found the right dose/type yet.


Hurdity x

[CLKD]

Propranolol didn't make any difference to me initially other than ease anxiety.    I was on 80mg 3 times a day for 3 months, then 40 mg twice a day. I have to say that I never registered on DH's BP home monitor though 

He would take his readings B4 breakfast at 7.30 a.m.

Let us know how you get on.  Keep to a regime at least for 5-6 weeks then review. 

[Michelle7474]

Propranolol didn't make any difference to me initially other than ease anxiety.    I was on 80mg 3 times a day for 3 months, then 40 mg twice a day. I have to say that I never registered on DH's BP home monitor though 

He would take his readings B4 breakfast at 7.30 a.m.

Let us know how you get on.  Keep to a regime at least for 5-6 weeks then review.

Morning CLKD

My Bp usually spikes when aniexty panic kick in.
I have a home monitor but I haven’t taken today as prob show being on the high side from lack of sleep

Gp will call today and no doubt say it’s aniexty
But this burning is too much
Started in June and they have me omperzole and I’ve taken as I’ve been told & yet it’s still there
Considering I’ve have no sleep I don’t actually feel anxious but this burning is intense
I think the lack of sleep is from the proponol as I know thts a side effect
I haven’t took it today as Wanna speak to GP first
I’ve only been having 10mg once a day and last time I had it was yesterday morning.

The out of breath was a new thing for me but again lack of sleep I know can contribute to that ..

I’m still laying in bed lol
I’ve had breakfast .. just one hours sleep would be great
Thanks for replying

[CLKD]

Propranolol is a calming drug, which is why it is banned from all sports events.  It is very unlikely to cause lack of sleep.  Worrying about not sleeping is the main cause for intermittent waking, not dropping off, worrying about issues .......... been through all of these in my longevity,, never blamed my medication ;-)

Get out of bed and get on?  Use some of that energy up which is keeping you awake.  If you were going to sleep you would have by now.  I'm lucky in that I can catch up in the afternoon, once my brain shuts off that's it: 😴- I get grumpy then if DH is rustling the keyboard, or newspaper pages, or moving his feet  and apparently I give a deep moan to shut him up, without actually waking 

[Michelle7474]

Hi Michelle

Sorry to hear about your woes. I haven't read all of the thread - the first couple of pages and a few on this page.

However I really wanted to say that Propanolol is a heart medication - a beta-blocker designed to treat heart problems - but is also used to treat anxiety. However if you have normal or low blood pressure then taking it can lead to side effects indicative of low blood pressure - I would say - like light-headedness, dizziness especially on getting up after bending down etc.

I have normal to low blood pressure and I would NEVER take this medication for this reason - even if I wanted something for anxiety, notwithstanding that others are finding it helpful and without side effects. If you have a BP monitor then I suggest you use it regularly. Try taking 3 BP readings, 3 times a day while sitting down and 30 mins after eating/caffeine etc? Whatever the instructions are anyway. I might be wrong in your case but it sounds like it could be lowering your BP more than desirable?

I hope you feel better soon. Yes don't rule out returning to HRT - it may well be that you haven't yet found the right dose/type yet.


Hurdity x

Hi hurdity
Thank you for replying

I only take this once a day and smallest dose and usually BP only spikes when I have bad aniexty
When I’ve taken this tablet I always check on after noon my BP and it’s always been fine .. as I say I only take 10mg once per day
I think this is causing my sleep problems as before this tab was never that bad, I haven’t yet taken it because I’ll speak with GP first

My burning sensation that I get as been since June , they gave me omperzole and I take daily as prescribed
Sometimes it takes away the intensity of the burn but it always comes back
Last night & night before was intense burning.
Gp said he will investigate when I have aniexty under-control ( that was when he was prescribing AD which I haven’t yet started )
Since this burning started in June I lost appetite.. always feel nausea and have to force myself to eat .. I lost 18lb since the burning before that even if I tried to lose weight I couldn’t and again They saying it could be aniexty
Bloody annoying
I wouldn’t beable to handle the side effects of a AD with all this going on.

I would never rule out using HRT again as I know my body will need it , but I need to let my hormones settle a little first

Thankyou for caring and replying

[Michelle7474]

Propranolol is a calming drug, which is why it is banned from all sports events.  It is very unlikely to cause lack of sleep.  Worrying about not sleeping is the main cause for intermittent waking, not dropping off, worrying about issues .......... been through all of these in my longevity,, never blamed my medication ;-)

Get out of bed and get on?  Use some of that energy up which is keeping you awake.  If you were going to sleep you would have by now.  I'm lucky in that I can catch up in the afternoon, once my brain shuts off that's it: 😴- I get grumpy then if DH is rustling the keyboard, or newspaper pages, or moving his feet  and apparently I give a deep moan to shut him up, without actually waking 

I heard every snore my husband did last night and fart 😂😂😂
It does say that side effect insomnia on the label …
Then burning well no that’s not tab doing that as I’ve had it before I even thought of taking proponol
I wish it would all kindly do one lol
Today I feel heavy body because of no sleep .. drained as it’s been happening for a few nights
I’ve taken my omperzole this morning and still then burning continues
It’s Getting on my nerves now lol

Thanks CLKD:)

[CLKD]

MayB think your diet through 2 C if there is a food trigger for the burning.  I can't burp - so DH has to manipulate my back and shoulders to move wind around 

Off to sort stuff.  Woozy or not, here I come 

[Nas]

Hi Michelle,
If you can't sleep, I would try get up and crack on with the day?
I have early waking and pounding  heart (low oestrogen still I think!) but if I lie there, tossing and turning, it drives me mad! Today i have the heavy body and feeling out of sorts, but I know it is due lack of restorative sleep.

I also have propranalol for anxiety, but have perfect blood pressure, so not touching it now I ve decided!

What are your plans for today Michelle?
Has the bleed descended yet?

CBD oil? Ever given it a thought for anxiety? Maybe a low strength one to start with?
Or those CBD sweets? Decent quality are also meant to be good for anxiety and sleep issues?
CBD tea can be good for relaxation, day or night?

Hope today isn't too bad for you.

xx