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Foxylady

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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #645 on: June 23, 2019, 08:31:25 AM »

That's great to hear missM, light at the end of the tunnel, long may it continue!
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Dorastar

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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #646 on: July 27, 2019, 01:56:33 AM »

Guess I should join in the thread too since this is my second or third week of 2am- 3am night sweats and no sleeping. Definitely peri but periods just carrying on as if they'll never end but with the added bonus of headaches and now this too. Hate waking up absolutely boiling (I'm normally freezing) and then everyone in family is a snorer so there's nowhere in the house I can't hear them. Am a miserable sod then for the rest of the day and trying not to have a nap is proving really hard. Not sure if it's worth a trip to the doctors or whether they'd just say it's way too early to do much because of periods.
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Dancinggirl

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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #647 on: July 27, 2019, 07:29:34 AM »

Hi Dorastar - welcome to MM
The peri stage can be awful with all the fluctuations. You don't say how old you are?
Unfortunately if your periods are still regular it can be difficult to get doctors to do anything about you problems. GPS are way too quick to proscribe anti depressants for meno symptoms and these are very far from ideal. Low dose HRT might help a bit but there are a couple of good BCPs that include natural oestrogen which can be good in peri meno - Qlara is one of them.
This horribly humid weather doesn't help right now. It is worth learning relaxation techniques e.g. Mindfulness, to help with the insomnia and awful fatigue. DG x
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Foxylady

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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #648 on: July 27, 2019, 07:57:49 AM »

Dorastar, I sympathise with you, as dancinggirl says it can be difficult to get GP's to acknowledge what is going on as being menopause related. I'm 41yr, had 3 years of horrendous symptoms & ended up being investigated for all sorts of unusual things (I initially went to GP thinking it was menopause symptoms). Read up about the blood tests as my original GP went down that route, bloods were normal (common as they fairly day to day in ones cycle) so they decided not menopause. Anyway to cut a long story short I was started on Fluoxetine (AD) by different GP for sweats primarily but it definately lifted my mood (my OH described me as 'flat' which summed it up) at the end of that week I was started on HRT for peri (GP had emailed menopause specialist about me and her advice was HRT, which I had gone to the GP asking for after reading up on the info from the lovely ladies on here). So approx 5 months on HRT and I feel amazing, still taking Fluoxetine but will wean myself off shortly. I also overhauled my lifestyle, been doing FAST 5:2 diet (not for everyone, find one that suits you, if it applies) lost over 2 stone so far, motivated to keep going. I don't think there is one answer but a number of factors that can help with symptoms, I also take some supplements, again these will be personal to you and dependent on other health conditions, medications etc. Let us know how you get on. x
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jessiew

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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #649 on: July 31, 2019, 06:24:00 PM »

I don't take anything to sleep just putting up with night sweats and lack of sleep get to sleep and then no sleep from 2 am get up at 5 am it's miserable !!
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Osprey

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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #650 on: October 18, 2019, 01:52:51 PM »

I struggled with sleeplessness and it's aftereffects of it at work and went on to HRT because of that one symptom that was really destroying life - greatly helped, but not perfect.  Still get quite a lot of bad nights.  I don't want this to sound wrong but the other day I thought  "S** it, I am never going to sleep well again!!! Better learn to live with it"   but did not expect anything to happen.  However, although I still sleep badly and wake a lot, I now don't seem to stress about it as I lie there awake and in the morning feel as if the night has been a bit better. It does sound a bit 'goody' but I think the unexpected unconscious decision not to be angry about it has taken the edge of the bad feelings.
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Wrensong

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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #651 on: October 18, 2019, 02:24:37 PM »

Hi Osprey, :welcomemm:.

I think your attitude is laudable - insomnia can be a very frustrating symptom of menopause & one which some of us continue to struggle with despite HRT - me included.  However, if there's some improvement from HRT & no deal-breaking side effects, I'd say better with than without.  Getting as much R&R as you can during the day in the form of whatever floats your boat, should mean your whole system is as relaxed as it can be at this transitional time & with any luck, the more chilled you are, the less your fight & flight response will be primed & better sleep may eventually follow over time. 

General advice to promote good sleep that I'm sure you're already aware of is no heavy meals in the evening, don't exercise too hard or too late in the day, alcohol may worsen sleep (sorry, don't shoot the messenger!) keep your bedroom cool & dark, no screen use too close to bedtime & keep the bedroom for sleep & sex!

Good to hear of a positive attitude - we certainly need as much of that as we can muster at this stage in our lives.
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Osprey

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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #652 on: October 23, 2019, 09:44:00 AM »

Thanks for responding!  All good advice about sleep prep which I do try to follow - certainly no blue screens, but books...
Also reassurance about taking HRT - I have been wondering if I should begin weaning myself off it as being a sensible thing to do long term.  I have patches and was thinking about gradually extending the time between replacing them.  However maybe I won't do that just yet.
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Wrensong

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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #653 on: October 23, 2019, 08:31:51 PM »

Hi Osprey.  Yes to book at bedtime!  OH reads aloud to me most nights & sends me to sleep before he's finished almost every time.  No idea what he's read when he asks the next day!  It's staying asleep that I can't master, but that's at least better than it was in peri when insomnia & night sweats nearly sent me insane.

Only you know whether the time's right to try reducing your HRT.  It needn't be an irreversible decision.  :)
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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #654 on: October 03, 2020, 06:29:51 AM »

Hi all, my sleep disappeared in the beginning of August.  I started HRT but it wasn't enough, and I also felt I needed to actively take control of things.  I started an online programme of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy for Insomnia, which according to research is THE most effective medication-free method for dealing with insomnia.  It's working!  The programme I'm following is www.theinsomniaclinic.co.uk.  It's the best money I've spent on sleep.
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Foxylady

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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #655 on: October 04, 2020, 04:02:56 PM »

Thanks CarolynT, I have signed up for the free webinar later! Glad it is working for you, insomnia is horrific. x
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Re: Tell us how you cope with poor sleeping
« Reply #656 on: November 20, 2020, 11:12:28 AM »

My sleep is disturbed by hypnic jerks, followed by sweats and another jerk usually occurs as I drift off, this pattern repeats......all night long!
I am on HRT, Femonston 1/10 but probably need to up my estrogen.
Not sure what to do because I don't want to go up to Fem2/10 because I tried it and it was worse than being on no HRT!
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