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[Sammiejane]

hi brandydog1

can i ask what hrt you are currently taking ?

also any of you ladies out there taking estrogel ! which are in surgical menopause ?

if so how was your hair ?
if you had hairloss on the gel and then added in testosterone did this stop it ?

[Sammiejane]

hi hurdity

everything i read about progesterone suggest that it isn't available from other sources as it only made in ovaries following ovulation there is a very small amount in the adrenal gland as there is estrogen and testosterone but estrogen is made elsewhere in the body ie brain and body fat progesterone isn't so women become more deficient in progesterone compared to estrogen as this hormone drops quicker then estrogen then testosterone !

[Sammiejane]

i think i'm going to take all 3 x estrogen progesterone and testosterone every other day and see x hairloss can't get any worse ! if dosent work then stopping it all !

i think adding testosterone to estrogen when hair is shedding will only make it worse ! unless there is an imbalance but lots of surgical menopause ladies here taking estrogen don't seem to be having hairloss so it still bring me back to whether it is the medication and the only way to know is to stop it for a while and see x

[Lou44]

Hi ladies. I see this is am old thread but thought I'd pop on anyway just in case. I don't come on this forum much as its mainly natural menopause ladies.

Just wondering how you surgical menopause ladies are doing?

I'm 5.5 years into it and have had every HRT and combo under the sun and still a mess. Currently trying Tibolone again with added Lenzetto and Testosterone. Not going well.

Main issues, widespread pain, intolerance to any exercise or exertion, fatigue, hair thinning, skin a mess, muscle weakness, no sex drive etc. Had low, high and middling oestrogen. No difference but generally feel worse on very high oestrogen. Progesterone works well for a week but then builds up and feel unwell.

Diagnosed with fibromyalgia and ME but it all started straight after surgery and I've never got balanced. Feel the years are flying by and if anything getting worse

Just wondering if anyone has found solutions? I'd give anything to get my ovaries back!

[Jellyb]

Hi, I went into surgical menopause around age 37 (I'm now 49) after having my ovaries removed.  I still have my womb.
I was very settled for years with a Mirena coil but, when I had it removed - and was due to have another put in - they couldn't do it as my womb had shrunk.
I'm now on Evorel conti patches, half a patch twice a week.
This really works for me, I feel "normal"! But I have tried other combinations over the years & also come off it all together - that didn't work!!
Hope you find a solution that works for you.

[Lou44]

Hi Jellyb

My you've been on surmeno a long time! Glad you've found balanced HRT.

I tried the mirena years ago and couldn't tolerate it. Thought I was totally progesterone intolerant and was advised that the op would be good as would only have to take oestrogen but I'm realing I can tolerate Utrogestan for a couple of weeks and it helps  a bit then it kind of builds up and I'm worse. Does make me wonder if a combined patch or similar would be worth a try.

Thanks for replying.

[Kelrob12]

Hi Lou44,

I had my ovaries removed 2 years ago I was 39. Still haven't got the balance right. tried a year ago going private but its so expensive and it seems they just blanket increase estrogen - its a lot of money to just do that. I didn't feel they saw me as an individual. Actually feel really disappointed with their service but thats another story.

So Im back researching myself. Just read this thread about tiblone. this hasn't never come up for me before. I showed my husband a couple of the old replies and he said god you could have written those! In a way its nice to know Im not alone, whilst also being so fed up not feeling like myself. I really never had any idea having no ovaries would may be feel this awful. the surgeon made it out Id slap on an patch and be fine! I never had a choice thought to keep as I have tumour on them. I also have now chronic pain from the surgery that Im not sure the hormone add to.

For reference Im currently on 100mg estradot and cyclic Utro. The first few days of Utro are hard but I just perservere due to needed the lining to shed. the NHS specialist won't up my patch said I should ty the coil as it binds SBHG to release are estrogen. ButI with my pains I just don't want to add something inside me that could(even mentally) cause me problems. My estrogen levels were 170pmol on 50mg patch and 211pmol on 100mg patch so Ive no idea if I need to increase oestrogen or not. Ive had a few months just notthinkign about it or reading but now back into trying to get it sorted!

Kelly x