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[Turkish delight]

Hi Gals!

I've been mia and as the title suggests suffering in silence. It's really starting to mess with my head now so thought I'd ask for help here.

So for the past 2 months I've been getting severe bloating daily, starting in the evenings, and then mornings explosive diarrhea every day of the past 2 months. I really feel in my waters...wink... that it's hormonal, a bit like my period poo used to be just before having my menstruation.

I've been on bhrt for 6 months and have been increasing my dose of O from 1 pump every other day to 2 pumps, as I felt symptoms of menop coming back. So I'm currently on 2 pumps O and even when on one pump I have been on 14x100mg Uto vaginally. Also a pea-size Testogel blob for the past 3 months, and Vagifem every 3rd day for 3 months.

After wracking my brains, and eliminating things one by one(even my fake tan)I'm left thinking it's the Utrogestan. I've noticed so many on here write that they are progesterone intolerant but mainly mention the mental aspects of this.

My question is....What does the physical aspect of "progesterone intolerance" look like? Does it include bloating, flatulence, and diarrhea? I have read online that it does but not seen anyone here or in archives mention much about it at all.

I will hold my hands up and say that I have changed my O dose up and down quite a bit from 1 to 2 pumps and eliminating things may not have helped, so will say I have hormone imbalance for sure, plus i'm peri not post, but the regime I'm on always seemed a bit heavy on the progesterone side.

Also after a rocky start, I didn't have a bleed for the past 2 months. I will obv go see my GP about it if it carries on, but if it is hormonal they won't have a clue as to doses/regime advice etc. The qyne I saw was nice but didn't have any meno experience and put me on 1 pump O 3 times a week plus the 14x 100mg utro which I followed for the 1st 2 months.

Now I'm seriously thinking of stopping all the hrt and see what happens, but pretty sure I'll still be in peri and start suffering with those symptoms, insomnia, sweats etc. Don't know what to do...help lol! I'm 7 days into utro and diarrhea got mega bad from day 1 of it so pretty sure it's related to Utro. The day before I started the utro was the first day in 2 months that I had none of the above symptoms, it was bliss. After 1st night of Utro I pooped 5 times the next day!!! What to do, shall I have less Utro? Maybe 7 or 10 days as only on 2 pumps O more recently.


If you got to the end of this post thanks for reading, and if you make any sense of it you deserve a medal.

TD

[Mogster71]

Hi Turkish Delight (I love that name lol)

I am fairly new to this HRT lark but my experience was with Novofem, a dual-hormone tablet, that I took for a month. Was fine on the Oestrogen part (first 2 weeks) then when they introduced the progesterone to the tablets in the last 12 days my tummy was a bit upset too. Not explosive (yikes, poor you) but definitely looser. I used to get a bubbly tummy around period time when they were happening naturally, so I can only imagine it to be that. I only took that particular type of HRT for a month, the other symptoms were racing adrenaline, rage and tears on the progesterone.

The progesterone in Novofem was norethisterone, which according to my GP was quite a strong type, and useful for ladies who wanted HRT due to heavy bleeds. I have (today) started on Femoston which is a dydrogesterone based progesterone treatment, so I'm not sure how this will be.

Hope that helps, I have read that women can become more intolerant to dairy/wheat during this time too, could it be anything diet-related exacerbated by the HRT?

Mog xx

[sheila99]

If you're taking utro cyclically but have diarrhoea all the time it probably isn't utro that's causing it. If you're getting it cyclically you could try a different progesterone eg provera or mirena. I have always been loose (but not proper diarrhoea) towards the end of the prog phase so for me even my own prog has an effect. It hasn't been worse with utro. If you have diarrhoea all the time I would see your gp. Perhaps try a diarrhoea medicine for a few days and see if that stops it permanently.

[jaycee]

When i was taking Evoral Conti after 2 days i had terrible diarhoea, it last for that day and night, and again at 5-30 the morning after,then a lull, but happened a couple of times more but not for as long
I only stayed on EC for 4 weeks, but after finishing them i had the D for another 2 days
I know it was that which caused it as i am usually very constipated,and been fine since

[Turkish delight]

Thanks Mog, a great name too!

Bubbling tummy is exactly how I'd describe it in the evening, and explosive as in lots of wind behind loose stools soz, would be more accurate than diarrhea come to think of it.

Shelia thank you for your advice.
It has been like it everyday but worse on utro days. I wondered if it was the oestrogel for a few weeks bcz of this so lowered it to 1 pump, no change.
I really am in a pickle now, and will probably sack the whole lot in bcz i'm coming to the end of my patience with it....at least until I get the classic timeless menopause symptoms back, then start over when I've had some good ol meno sleep deprivation, 25 hot flushes, migraines, and raging lunacy for a bit. 

TD

[Turkish delight]

Thanks Jaycee!

It's good to hear other people have had some gut reactions to hormones, make me feel less alone. I think it is a thing with some of us, but as per, mine is always a worst-case scenario 

TD

[squeaker99]

Hi. I had this the first couple of years of Peri - Loose, pale , smelly stools and lots of gas at both ends.   I think looking back it was linked to stress/anxiety and hormones. I went to the GP and got checked out as it went on for about 6 months (poo sample/bloods/scope up bum) but everything was fine and it did come and go and didn't relate to any medication I was on (I wasn't on any). Go just wrote off a ' IBS'.  I now avoid gluten and drink lots of water which seem to help. Stress reduction is a key one.

My husband  had something similar was they said ' diverticulitus' but he was very bloated whereby I wasn't.

Do go to the GP and don't Google or rely on forum advise - best to get checked out.

[Rosie63]

Hi Turkish Delight.  I suffer terribly with digestive problems which I think are definitely made worse by hormones.  I've been on Femoston conti for 4 months or so now and the stomach problems are not improving. With me I think it's the oestrogen as I've tried taking hrt cyclically and there's no difference when on oestrogen only or adding in the prog. 

Sorry I can't be of much help but just wanted to let you know that you're not alone in your suffering 😞

Rosie63 x

[Turkish delight]

Thanks squeaker and Rosie,

That's the odd thing, my farts(sorry)and poo don't smell at all, zero odour, my OH can verify haha! This I guess is the silver lining in my poo coloured cloud
 

The only stress I'm feeling lately is from my vicious butt cycle issues...boohoo lol!
Think my OH is running scared of me coming off HRT, it's his best friend lemme tell you.

TD

[CLKD]

I had 'the runs' 10 mins. prior to a bleed, even when a period wasn't due.  No pain but the sudden need to find a loo! so I never travelled at that time of the month  .

My wind rarely has an odour  unless I've eaten something .........

Bloating too.  AWFUL 

Never suffer in silence! 

[Turkish delight]

Thanks CLKD,

I missed you while I was away.

x

[CLKD]

   did you miss anything in particular  . 

When bloated and if I lay in the bath I can watch wind going through my belly from the naval downwards.   .  Like a little critter wandering around 

[Turkish delight]

LOL,

I missed exactly that CLKD, your wacky sense of humour, good advice, and support.

What you described makes me think of a blowhole, and how it's a potential good party trick hehe!

TD

[CLKD]

Maybe we should be able to unleash the naval ?   

[groundhog]

Nooooo then you'd have a fistula and take it from me you don't want that lol