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[suziq99]

That's great news then, far better to find some one closer to you. And not meaning to upset anyone but you probably have a better chance of getting hrt advise from a non Spanish doc.

[racjen]

Why did you alter medication if it was working  ?

As someone who can't find any solution to menopausal symptoms which are literally making me feel suicidal, I have to echo CLKD's question. You're very unlikely to find the ideal solution, to find something that makes a huge difference but is a bit messy and inconvenient is, to be honest, a pretty good result and one that I'd give my eye teeth for. If I was in your shoes I'd just stick with that. You'll probably end up going all round the houses, spending a huge amount of money and coming back to your original regime in the end anyway.

[Nikkisyard]

Why did you alter medication if it was working  ?

As someone who can't find any solution to menopausal symptoms which are literally making me feel suicidal, I have to echo CLKD's question. You're very unlikely to find the ideal solution, to find something that makes a huge difference but is a bit messy and inconvenient is, to be honest, a pretty good result and one that I'd give my eye teeth for. If I was in your shoes I'd just stick with that. You'll probably end up going all round the houses, spending a huge amount of money and coming back to your original regime in the end anyway.

Thanks racjen ... yes I've followed your plight on occasion and I truly feel for you. However as I explained before it wasn't working for me... and I'm not one to just settle for something when I feel there is still things to be explored. That way of thinking has served me well in the past. I'm happy to say that while it has often felt like “one step forwards two steps back” it is going in the right direction..... slowly. I'm in a far better place now that 3 to 4 years ago when I was attempting other ways of dealing with this....

I truly hope you find some balance.... I've been 5 years trying but when I finally took the plunge with HRT I knew I was on the right track... You will find your happy medium I am sure. Look after you xx 

[Nikkisyard]

Hi Honeystar
I live in the north of Spain near Dénia. I have private insurance here & so have a private Gynae. I don't find her that much use & she isn't really keen on HRT after a certain age but I insist.
You can get most things here. They do have estradot but it is more expensive because it is imported. I use a patch called Evopad, it is similar to the Evorel that you get in the UK. That costs €2.50 for a box of 8 patches. Don't take progesterone as have had a total hysterectomy 7 years ago.

Hey Paisley you aren't too far from me! I'm in Moraira.
Yes, armed with my boxes of Estroderm and Utrogestan prescribed in the UK I went to my local pharmacy here and topped up.... I was also able to by the Testogel so am arming myself with all I might need now... let's see what this Dutch Gynae is like on Wed! I will let you know!

[Nikkisyard]

That's great news then, far better to find some one closer to you. And not meaning to upset anyone but you probably have a better chance of getting hrt advise from a non Spanish doc.

  for all your support Suziq99! Let's see!!

[paisley]

Honeystar
What is the name of the Dutch Gynae you are seeing? I saw one in Moraira a few years ago. Can't remember his name though

[Nikkisyard]

Honeystar
What is the name of the Dutch Gynae you are seeing? I saw one in Moraira a few years ago. Can't remember his name though

Hey paisley... its Dr. Michel Vleugels. He had been at the HCB Asistel Moraira clinic since Spring this year...
There is another named Dr. Javier Server, i have no idea of his history in Moraira however not someone I would want to see having read that he published some misogynistic cartoons in a medical journal a while back... other practitioners had complained....

[paisley]

Hi Honeystar
Just googled the one I saw. He was called Dr Walter Van Harmelen & I am glad it isn't the same one that you are going to see as he was awful. He told be to get some blackout curtains for my bedroom & that would fix me.

[racjen]

Sorry, I still don't really understand what the problem is. In your original post you said of the first HRT regime you tried:

'WOW - this changed things significantly! Almost within a week I was sleeping, no hot sweats and felt happier. However, I didn't welcome the bleeds and felt the pessaries and gel was laborious and messy.'

Did things then deteriorate? Otherwise I'm just not getting it - putting up with a monthly bleed and a bit of mess, sounds like heaven to me if it sorts everything else out. I must be missing something, sorry if I'm being difficult....

[CLKD]

I don't get the problem either.   

I much prefer the regime of VA treatment to periods .......... now that WAS messy, for 10 days at a time with intense pain and clots  at a time when I was trying to work in a busy mixed-sex environment which meant travelling .........

What regime would you like to try Honeystar?  Which symptom do you need to ease in the first instance?

[Nikkisyard]

Sorry, I still don't really understand what the problem is

I don't get the problem either.   

Racjen and CLKD I'm sorry you don't understand.. but that's ok.. I'm not here to make you.

Neither was I here to press my own issues onto anyone.. just simply to ask advice from those who might understand or have some deeper learned knowledge of HRT and it's intracacies.

I also don't feel a need to explain, certainly no more than I have done already, to anyone who doesn't get where I'm coming from.

I'm genuinely sorry you are having issues racjen, and I'm glad you've found your preferred regime CLKD.

 

[Nikkisyard]

Hi Honeystar
Just googled the one I saw. He was called Dr Walter Van Harmelen & I am glad it isn’t the same one that you are going to see as he was awful. He told be to get some blackout curtains for my bedroom & that would fix me.

 
What an idiot.... at this stage in my journey I would have probably stood up and told him exactly that.. and suggest he educate himself. And this IS what I will do when faced with such ignorance nowadays....

I saw a female Gynae in Switzerland a few years ago... I truly thought this would be the be all and end all... but she sat there, obviously hadnt even looked at my test results, didnt listen to me until I spoke about Libido then proceeded to tell me to go see a sex therapist. And handed a leaflet.... FFS???
Ive grown some balls since then

[NorthArm]

Hi Honeystar

Have you thought about trying tibolone for your issues?

It's for post menopausal women, and is actually a non hormone that acts on your oestrogen, progesterone and testosterone receptors in your body.

Just a thought if hormonal hrt doesn't work for you. I tried it for a while, and it was good, but being peri meant my own cycle kept overriding it. It's definitely one I'll go back to once this journey is done 😁

ps- was fantastic for libido

[Nikkisyard]

Have you thought about trying tibolone for your issues?

Hi Northarm! No I hadnt even heard of that... i will look it up! Thank you!

[racjen]

Sorry if my reaction was inappropriate - it's my frustration and desperation speaking, seems like I can't get anywhere near a solution, my life is a daily nightmare so I feel envious of those who are coping a bit better x