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Lisa1966

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Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« on: May 25, 2018, 08:14:54 AM »

Hi ladies,I am on sandrena gel 1mg ish and just not feeling well,I'm noticing a pattern at ovulation and menstruation times,when I'm struggling to cope. I have read John studds theory on this,and it says u need to be on 2.5-5mg of gel,or 100 or 200 patch to over ride ur cycle.has anyone any experience of this,or any advice u can offer me. Thanks.

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CLKD

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2018, 11:40:40 AM »

Maybe ring his Secretary next week?  Some ladies here have seen the Prof too so hopefully will be along with experiences.

I used to sob the night B4 a bleed started even if a period wasn't due so knew it was hormonal.  Tears would take over.

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Lisa1966

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2018, 12:28:37 PM »

Thanks CLKD,I'm so irritable and angry,I could really upset someone,am mid cycle so ovulating I expect,before last period me and daughter fell out,normally I wouldn't say anything,but can't help it. It's horrible. Was wondering what Louise Newson was like,and if any of them do phone consultations,as anxiety makes it hard to travel.

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CLKD

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2018, 01:11:08 PM »

Prof Studd used to do telephone consults but he can be apparently, a bit abrupt. 

I used to throw a hissy fit around 'that' time. What would go by me other days would suddenly cause intense anger  >:(

How is your diet?
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Lisa1966

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2018, 01:17:20 PM »

I do try to eat healthy,but it's hard when ur on ur own to be bothered.

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CLKD

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2018, 02:16:00 PM »

Yep.  Maybe prepare lots of veg. to keep in chilled water - drained every day it can be used as and when.  Same with meals, batch cook?

Eating every 3 hours can help anxiety too.
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Lisa1966

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2018, 02:52:42 PM »

Thanks CLKD,will give it a go.

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Mary G

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2018, 03:42:12 PM »

Lisa1966, if your are suffering from hormonal anxiety and depression then you need specific and targetted hormone treatment, you can't just bump along on a low dose of HRT and hope for the best because you need to override your cycle.  You have read Professor Studd's website and as he states, you need a high dose of oestrogen to override your cycle and you might also need to add ADs but it is a specialised field and you need to get some proper advice from someone who knows what they are talking about.

As CLKD suggested, ring Professor Studd's office and try to get an appointment - he works with two other menopause specialists namely, Dr Mike Savvas and Mr Neal Watson both of whom are very nice and approachable and if you are prepared to be flexible about who you see you might get an appointment more quickly.

In the meantime, have a look at some of GypsyRoseLee's posts, she has been very successfully treated for hormonal anxiety and depression but had had her fair share of setbacks along the way.
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Lisa1966

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2018, 04:09:32 PM »

Hi Mary g,I have been ringing around and unfortunately proff studds prices are out of my league,which is a shame as I could have got an appointment next week,Louise newson is abit cheaper,but unfortunately won't be able to see her for 3-4months. I will keep googling to see if there are anymore.how do u look at other people's old posts?

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2018, 05:17:37 PM »

Hi Lisa
I have terrible anxiety and depression but it's not cyclical it's more constant everyday. I'm peri and went to see a meno consultant ( nhs) and started sandrena gel 6 weeks ago. I'm on 2mg and have to say hopefully without tempting fate that I feel a lot better. It says on PIL that the recommended dose is between 0.5 and 1.5 mg a day so maybe you need a higher dose like me x
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Lisa1966

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2018, 05:50:36 PM »

Hi Florence, I think I do need a higher dose, but I don't think the gp will do it as she is clueless. I don't know if she will refer me to meno specialist,my appointment is not until 12th June. I did put gel up to 1.5 for a week or so but put back down to 1.0. I was only prescribed 0.5 and that's a waste of time,so I have had to go in and fill in a repeat prescription request today,don't think that will go down well,but if u can't get an appointment,what r u supposed to do.

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2018, 07:38:02 PM »

Have a chat with a Pharmacist who may be able to let you know more about what is acceptable regards the amount, then you have something to go back to your GP with.
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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2018, 02:34:41 PM »

Thank you ladies for for the great advice,I will look at all the options and let u know how it goes.

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2018, 03:13:31 PM »

How R U feeling today?
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Lisa1966

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Re: Cyclical depression and anxiety,John studd theory?
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2018, 03:29:56 PM »

Hi CLKD,I'm not so angry and irritable today,just feel exhausted and just not right. How r u ? xx
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