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[Taz2]

That's good advice Winterose. Which type of prolapse have you got?

Taz x

[Daisydot]

Have you seen the ad for Innova on tv it seems to have a very good success rate so I've decided to invest in it,it's costly but you can do it over 5 monthly payments so I'm taking a gamble on it if it's rubbish I'll return it.think it'll be here in a week so I'll keep you ladies posted.itll also be useful for other family members so I'm not bawking at the cost.xx

[Taz2]

No I haven't seen that - what is it?

Taz x

[Taz2]

Found it! Innovo.

Taz x

[Taz2]

You should be able to get pelvic toners on the NHS by the way. https://www.pelvictoner.co.uk/the-pelvic-toner/nhs-approved/available-on-prescription. Do you have a prolapse Daisydot? If so it is advisable to consult a medical professional before using Innovo especially if you have had pelvic surgery. Others on here have used toners so may be worth searching to see which ones they are using?

Taz x

[Daisydot]

Hi taz .I didn't think it mattered wether I had a prolapse or not as I know regardless I have to work on my pelvic floor muscles and this seems a good way to do it.I also didn't know I could get pelvic toner on the nhs although I doubt they'll provide that to us useless over 60 s now,that's their opinion anyway when it comes to hrt or help in my case.thank you for mentioning these things anyway.I have not had pelvic surgery for prolapse.many thanks taz2.x

[Taz2]

Sorry I only wondered if you were trying to improve prolapse symptoms as you mentioned the inflataball which I thought was for prolapse?  It's great you haven't got one! 

If you are suffering with any pelvic floor related problems then a toner would be available to you on the NHS no matter what your age but if you just want to maintain strength then you probably would have to buy one. I have had different pelvic floor exercise programmes set for me by the pelvic floor speciality nurse and these work just as well as a toner but I can see that without specialist input then a toner may be the answer.

Let us know how you get on.

Taz x

[Daisydot]

Hi taz no need to apologise your advice was very welcome.I don't honestly know if I have a prolapse but suspect I do as I know it's very common after hysterectomy and none of these geniuses I see ever bother to examine me and to be honest I'm usually so ticked off I wouldnt want them to lol.its been 20 years since my surgery so it wouldn't surprise me as I always have backache so I thought after reading all this stuff on here it would be a good idea to try at least do something positive to help myself as I will never have surgery again for anything if I can avoid it.That toner looks like a medieval torture instrument to me honestly lol I'm the worlds biggest coward.many thanks again taz xx

[Winterose]

Taz2 - I have rectocele and cystocele , hysterectomy was 12 years ago and signs of prolapse appeared
6 years later at end of day when tired and then got steadily worse , if d known about pessarys then my prolapse might have been kept manageable

[Daisydot]

I'd never ever looked downstairs until I got va and the bleeding was bad it turned out I had two big raw sores just at entrance either side of vagina that were bleeding and of course when I peed the pain was horrific ,gp said blood in urine was cancer scare so referred me to urologist for cystoscope without examining me and I just knew something wasn't right hence the use of mirror. I was so glad I did this and refused the cystoscope because I wouldn't get to speak to the urologist till after nurse did it and twice I argued and cancelled appointment and twice they said the same thing.I then went to practice nurse and begged for estriol cream after doing my own research like most of us do,she prescribed it but still never examined me then when I tried to get it again docs refused it because I wouldn't have the invasive cystoscope done,very very petty.Im now at a stage now where I'm assuming I have a prolapse as I can see something fleshy and my urethra when I look ( I can't leave that bloody mirror alone now lol)at 60 years of age I basically new nothing about my anatomy as we just didn't go there as youngsters and like you say winterose if we knew certain things early enough then we could prevent later problems,it's no wonder I have no faith in any gp I've come across in my life I've never met an ounce of kindness or compassion from one I'm sad to say.xx

[Taz2]

Sorry that you've had bad experiences of GPs Daisydot. I've had three cystoscopies just to check that bladder was healthy and they were fine. If you do get asked to have another one there's really nothing to worry about and I found it reassuring to know that my emptying mechanism was 'excellent'  .

Winterose - it's a shame that we're not given more help and advice when first developing pelvic floor problems. My own GP practice have been very good with referrals and I had a lot of sessions at the urinary/pelvic floor health clinic but things still slid southwards sadly.

Taz x

[Winterose]

Well I have to say it was this brilliant forum that led me to the inflataball