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[CLKD]

Why didn't you ask the physio and when you say 'clicked' what exactly did you mean?  Manipulation without GA can be dangerous! and did the physio. have access to recent X-rays? 

Do speak with a Pharmacist tomorrow, certain over-the-counter medications are designed for certain issues and at this time of night, I can't remember which is for what     .  I find that Nurofen eases sciatic pain and headaches for me and paracetamol does Zilch 

[Dede]

Thank you for getting back to me CLKD. I told the physio that I''d had x rays
done and were all ok.
My dr suggested I see her so presumed all was ok.
I was lying on my front which was quite uncomfortable and could feel
every little knot etc in my shoulder. She litteraly took me by surprise by
manipulating my neck on both sides. She just did the first one automatically but
asked if she could do the other one. I assumed because my dr suggested I see
her that it would be ok. It was  painful and made me cry.

Chemist  recomended Iboprophen and cold packs for shoulder. The pain is
slightly better this morning but my neck and shoulder is still throbing.
I've got carpal tunnel as well which makes it worse.
I've got appointment to see my own Dr on Thursday.
Dede

[nearly50]

Neck manipulation is horrible, isn't it? Even worse when you know what's coming. I always found it took a few days to feel an improvement. 

[CLKD]

Also extremely dangerous without sedation or full GA! as the patient may resist which can cause the carotid ?nerve? whatever it is in the neck to constrict and cause paralysis .......... under sedation or GA the patient is completely relaxed so there is no resistance.  Did the physio. see your X-rays?  I wouldn't let anyone twist any part of me unless that particular area had been discussed with the medic.

Many years ago my boss at the time sent a young girl of 18 to X-ray as she was complaining of pain, I can't remember which level but the X-ray showed a problem which had she gone to the osteopath prior to the Orthopaedic Clinic, would have possibly left her in a wheelchair.  I think the level of pain was 'fused' ........ with gentle exercises and swimming she was able to control her pain, without the X-ray she would have been none the wiser.  JMO.

[nearly50]

I trust my osteopath - I think it is an exaggeration to say that it is extremely dangerous CLKD. Taking the contraceptive pill is supposed to be more likely to cause a stroke than having neck manipulation, so good to keep things in context.

[Evelyn63]

Dede, when you see your Gp again I would ask him to prescribe Naproxen, these are the gold standard for all sorts of muscular pain, and are excellent , however, you must take a PPI with them ( Protein Pump inhibitor) such as Omerprazole in order to prevent any kind of stomach inflammation or bleeding.  These two combined should help enormously with your pain and you can top up with co codomal and use hot and cold packs on your neck.  I am sure in a day or two you will feel better , the manipulation probably just exacerbated the underlying pain you already had.   Most physiotherapists know more about muscular symptoms than the average GP, and are very experienced in dealing with your type of problem.  I hope you soon feel better, its horrible having discomfort in your neck, it seems to affect every other part of you, similar to back pain.

[Dede]

Does anyone have any experience of occipital neuralgia?
It seems to fit in with all my symptoms
 Dede x

[VanessaM]

Hi Dede

According to my osteopath I have occipital neuralgia.  Do you have the following?

Dull head pain at the back of your head, on top of your head or your forehead
Tingling in the back of your head
Blocked and confused head
Dizziness
Sporadic episodes of very tender scalp
General off balance kind of weirdness
Normal OTC pain relievers ineffective

I have been like this on and off since January!  I have to rush out now, but I would really like to share experiences.  Bizarrely I find chewing piece of root ginger provides a bit of temporary relief.

Vanessa

[CLKD]

Not an exaggeration at all!  Don't knock what I say regarding this subject, it's something that has been swept under the couch ........ I would be asking an osteopath for details of people who have been injured in such a way, some osteopaths may not be aware that people have been damaged!

Do you get my point about being under GA offers no resistance to the manipulation? 

How's the pain today?

[Dede]

Back to see physiotherapist tomorrow ( it wasn't osteopath that clicked my neck )

Yesterday wasn't too bad, managed to control the pain with advice from chemist.
Slept ok but shoulder and back of neck have have throbbed intermittently today.
Feeling sorry for myself at the moment, I've got carpal tunnel as well which doesn't
help ( I might have already mentioned that !)

I'm still grieving for my mum as well  ( she died a few months ago ) so probably
not coping quite as well as I normally would x

[CLKD]

You have a lot going on Dede  - carpal tunnel syndrome can be triggered by hormones, pregnant women can suffer but it resolves after delivery.  Do you hang your hand over the edge of the bed to ease symptoms?  Surgery can help.

[Dede]

Thank you for the Big Hug CLKD

Carpal tunnel , definetly not menopausal related.... my hormones up and left
the room a while back  ha. I need opp on both hands but keep putting it off.

Re mum and grieving.........it seems there's a term for it now ' adult orphans '
It expressed exactly how I've been feeling.

Dede x

[CLKD]

Do you have a memory album?  Cruse are a good contact too.

[Dede]

Hi CLKD
I put together a memory album for mum a while back. She had alzhimers and it was a good way of helping to keep her early childhood and family memories intact for
a while longer. She could recognise her mum and dad and all her brothers and sisters
and my sister and myself when we were younger. Struggled with recent photos
but enjoyed looking at them with me x

[Evelyn63]

off.

Re mum and grieving.........it seems there's a term for it now ' adult orphans '
It expressed exactly how I've been feeling.

Dede x

You might find this link interesting Dede

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/dec/10/parents-death-bereavement-eleni-kyriacou