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[Starproms]

Thank you dahliagirl and ancient runner. I will ask my doctor for the pessaries you recommend and I will try and find some herbal tablets to ease me through the withdrawal of h.r.t.

I was not aware that I was 'wasting away' down there! It's not a very pleasant thing o come to terms with.

I wish you both a very happy Sunday. God bless 

[dahliagirl]

It is what happens to any bit of the body that is no longer used, like muscles if you have bed rest - can't do much about reproduction being over though 

Vagifem shouldn't give you a bleed, although you may find you need more that the 2 twice a week.

I can't believe that someone appears daft enough to give you a sequential hrt, then send you for investigations because you bled 

[CLKD]

You probably won't need anything whilst stopping HRT  ......... herbals can contra-indicate conventional medication, have a read through the 'alternative' threads?  ?

[Starproms]

Dahliagirl, I think the doctor sent me to the hospital because of my age, 65 - just to make sure that the bleed wasn't caused by something else. Different doctors!! If the doctor had given me the conti version of Elleste, I wouldn't have bled, freaked out etc.

[CLKD]

If the prescribing practitioner had told you what to expect you wouldn't have freaked out >sigh< 

[Starproms]

Yes, that's right. All the doctor said was that she was prescribing a tablet as much like Climesse as possible. I skipped through the booklet that came with it. I tend not to take much notice about the booklets that come with drugs because they always put the fear of God into you if you start to worry about all the side effects! I am surprised that the doctor expected a woman of my age (65) to have a period again so no wonder I freaked out. To be honest I thought I was haemorrhaging! I was expecting to be sent to the hospital that very day for a hysterectomy!

[Hurdity]

Hi Starproms

Belated from me - have been busy for a few days!

I can't really add much to what's been said - just amazed as the others have said - that you were given a cyclical HRT when you were in mid 60's and post-menopausal - yet another example of the ignorance of some doctors - such a very basic error!

Having said that I am in my 60's and still having a bleed (every 6-8 weeks though) - through choice because I don't want to be on continuous progesterone.

A pity you had to give up though - ideally you could carry on if you suffer from symptoms but I agree that 2 mg (high dose) tablet HRT is not ideal in 60's and especially as you started at 60 I think - was this long after menopause? If coming off HRT does not work for you there is always patch HRT to consider which is better in over 60's or late starters to HRT, but yes get the local oestrogen definitely.

I presume for docs to say you had atrophy of the womb too you must have had an ultra-sound scan and maybe a transvaginal one too which measured the thickness of the womb lining? It is normal for it to atrophy later in post-menopause and sometimes also on HRT if the progestogen is quite high dose compared to the oestrogen - and in your case this would be why you were fine on the tablets. However surprising to bleed after the first cycle on the new tablets - but I expect your uterus didn't know what had hit it - all that pure oestrogen making it grow!

I hope you manage to sort out with the doc what you need to be comfortable and without horrible symptoms.

Hurdity x

[Starproms]

This Ancient Runner. I have now been off the h.r.t for six weeks and as expected, symptoms have developed. After two weeks I developed cystitis and had to take anti biotics. As well as the cystitis I experienced leakage. Even if I didn't particularly need to go to the toilet, once I got in there I could hardly get my knickers off quickly enough!

My bra keeps coming undone, which puzzled me at first and then I realised that my breasts had shrunk and now droop.

My vagina has dried up. I have tried using local creams but that only provides temporary relief.

All in all I have been struggling! I went to the doctor and asked for some Vagifem, which he has given me.

Tomorrow I go to a follow up appointment at the hospital with the consultant. I am really missing the h.r.t right now. I won't take the Vagifem til I've discussed it with him, but right now I am not wanting any more internal examinations.

I didn't realise when I first got the menopause that the symptoms would be for life!!!

[CLKD]

One doesn't "TAKE" Vagifem by the way  .

It should ease your vaginal dryness.