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Dancinggirl

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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2015, 09:05:52 AM »

Hi Peterspots - I'm afraid I've experienced this really unpleasant soreness in the urethra on and off for many years. I doubt the cystoscopy would have made it much worse but this soreness is often related to vaginal atrophy.  As Hurdity explained, there are oestrogen receptors in the bladder and urethra and as oestrogen declines the whole area becomes more delicate. Regular UTI type symptoms (often with no actual infection detected) are one of the many things we meno ladies experience and local oestrogen is often the best treatment to reduce the discomfort. Local oestrogen helps to keep the whole area more healthy and resilient. I would try Vagifem first as the creams can be a bit messy and when my urethra is sore I find the fillers in the cream can irritate things a bit.   
I also find that when I am sore (I feel as though my urethra is actually swollen!!) I tense in my pelvic floor and, whilst they tell us to do pelvic floor exercises, I do find that if I actively relax my pelvic muscles, particularly if I have my feet up, this will relieve the soreness. The other thing to watch out for is making sure you really empty your bladder properly every time - so really relax and sit there until everything has trickled out - again, it's easy to retain urine which can become more acidic and irritate.
The advice about using bicarb in a drink a couple of times a day for a few days is really good. Also make usreyou aren't using anything perfumed on your intimate area - shower, don't bath and perhaps get some vaginal moisturiser (online or at the chemist) that will keep the vaginal area lubricate and healthy. I use a little Multi Gyn Actigel everyday which seems to help.
There is a lady visits MM who has posted about this issue - she has seen a specialist who believes there can be infection embedded in the bladder wall that can only be treated with long term powerful ABs.  This specialist believes the overuse of short term ABs for UTIs has probably created bacteria resistance (which is now prevalent for many things).  However, many of us do find that he local oestrogen is the key to preventing infection taking hold in the first place.  DG x
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Peterspots

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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2015, 09:21:50 AM »

The urologist secretary called me & said bladders fine & see gynae but I tried to explain the feeling Im getting now is new. I think it's the cysoscopy. Just going to brush me off while I have some horrible thing.
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Limpy

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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2015, 09:51:12 AM »

Peterspots - It's horrible having pain in that area.
However, I really don't think the urologist is trying to fob you off, they do like to cure us!
Local oestrogen can help massively in situations like this (well it did for me).
In the short term, see your GP again, having printed off the response that Hurdity made, where it states that local oestrogen can be used alongside full HRT.
Hope you feel more comfortable soon.
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Peterspots

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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2015, 10:00:09 AM »

Thank you. I know but I didn't have these other symptoms before the cysoscopy.

That's what I'm worried about. It's smarting all the time & I still have the continuos ache I had before. How am I supposed to do normal things feeling like this.
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ancient runner

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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2015, 11:09:46 AM »

Hello Peterspots
Here's a thought: your urethra wasn't in a great state anyway because of repeated cystitis perhaps over the years? And it's perhaps a little more fragile because of the lack of oestrogen around there. So up goes the cystoscopy tool (I've had one as a young woman - was sore for a fair few days after, did drink bicarb, etc) and it causes a little surface damage along the way, as it would. But here's the thing - lack of oestrogen means that it's just taking longer to heal up and it feels horrid. Honestly, I would definitely suggest getting hold of some local oestrogen to use - vagifem or a cream perhaps - and then see what happens. I think you're right that the cystoscopy may have sparked something off but think it may do in most women - the difference is that hormonal changes mean you're not going to recover so fast/that it adds to existing problems. Please do consider asking the GP for vagifem or whatever, and just give it a go? It'll help you work out what is and isn't going on, and maybe make you feel lots better.
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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2015, 11:26:34 AM »

Off to your Practice Nurse/GP?  If you don't ask you don't get  ;)
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Peterspots

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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2015, 12:36:02 PM »

Thank you though I haven't had cystitis but I did have a problem like this for a long time job my 20s. I was told at the time it was pelvic congestion (veins in the pelvis) because its in the same area. The bit that hurt when he went in was my urethra so it does make sense.  I'm just finding it hard to feel when worse than I did when I went in. Anyone had an ache behind pubic bone with low esteogen. Menopause
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Limpy

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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2015, 01:30:43 PM »

Like AR and the others have said, it's not a surprise that the insult caused by the cystoscopy takes longer to recover when oestrogen is low.

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Peterspots

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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2015, 01:51:11 PM »

yes it does make sense..........http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/Smileys/extended/rolleyes.gif just a worry after the crap time I've had
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Taz2

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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2015, 05:07:57 PM »

Hello.  Yes I have had an antibiotic for a week. I've had the dip test & it was negative. I am tense. I am trying to be more relaxed over it but I have not experienced pain like this. I am worried about how this has effected me & worrying about what has happened or why it isn't feeling better yet?  It's a week today. I thought when I had it it was very very sore but as the bladder was ok I could start on the estrogen cream when I saw the gynae. Now I just don't know.

When did you have the dip test done as the result can be affected if you have been on antibiotics. Had you had a clear forty eight hours without them?

Taz x
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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2015, 05:15:43 PM »

I finished the last one this morning.  I just feel like the bladder/urethra is getting worse.  It looks like my period is coming and I was on a week ago when I had it done.  I havent been to work and I am just stuck at home because it hurts so much.  I am sure this isnt normal.
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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2015, 05:17:43 PM »

sorry I had two dip tests done prior to cystoscopy and they showed lucosites (?) the one I had done on Sunday after Ihad been on the antibiotics was clear.

I know I've got to dig deep but the spasms are horrible.
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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2015, 05:35:56 PM »

I would consult your GP if you are still in pain this long after the procedure and can't go to work. I went back to work after mine - although I didn't have any anesthesia. Don't suffer any longer than you have to.  NHS recovery guidelines here http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Cystoscopy/Pages/Recovery.aspx

Taz x
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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2015, 06:04:53 PM »

Just spoke to the consultant.  He said its unusual but it can happen.  He wants to prescribe anti spasmodic tablets & anti biopics. So fed up. I didn't feel like this before. So upset.
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Re: Pain in bladder/urethra. Help anyone
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2015, 07:58:54 PM »

Continual pain is tiring.  Is your Consultant sending the script to your GP ?  Are you taking the pain relief?  It's OK to have time off work following surgical intervention.
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