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[honeybun]

I am personally not trying to do anything of the kind Taz. All this was meant to be was an opportunity for people to discuss the alternative side of things without being shouted down as often happens.

Of course discussion would take place and in disappointed that you would think I was trying to suggest anything else.

I really don't like the tone of the forum at the moment.

This was a fact finding topic to see how many of our members felt the same as I do but perhaps it wasn't such a good idea.....although on the other hand the general support speaks volumes don't you think 


Honeyb

[CLKD]

Open discussion is always important and gives us the opportunity of sharing experiences and supporting those who are struggling! the but written word is static and upsets happen because there isn't the opportunity for an instant response …….. 

[honorsmum]

There's a difference between saying, "I tried x but it didn't work and made me feel worse" and saying, "if a,b,c,d was effective, the NHS would be prescribing them, so don't even bother trying them."

[CLKD]

It is true - if 'alternatives' worked they would be available on the NHS! which makes more products safe to use.  I have never said 'don't bother trying them' …….. but I do request caution for products bought on the inter-net! because there isn't as much research and oh am searching for a word now  …….. I sometimes feel that NICE takes far too long to allow new medications into the Market …. but we do at least have an organisation to check that medications are as safe as possible to use.

[Millykin]

This thread is going down the wrong road again

Yes or No

[CLKD]

Yes for a topic that is open to all

and yes -  - from where I'm sitting, caused because 1 Member thought she was being bullied ……..

[honeybun]

Silver Lady has sent me an email and asked me to post on the Where is Silver Lady thread. It explains just exactly what happened and why she left.

I will do that for her and after that I give up.


Honeyb
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[honorsmum]

CLKD, my post wasn't aimed at you.

I was simply trying to make the point as to why I think HB has suggested a separate forum - so that alternative approaches can be discussed, not written off in one fell swoop.

[purplenanny]

Don't give up HB, you are trying to do a good thing and you had a lot of support
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[BrightLight]

Oh dear   

[CLKD]

   it's that written word again  ………

Request sent Honeybun? 

[BrightLight]

The thing is...........it's a culture thing. If the forum wishes to remain a certain way then it remains a certain way and all peoples needs and interests can't always be accommodated.  I do feel like there is an opportunity here - to integrate what appear here as two opposing views.  HRT or 'Natural'.  If a seperate area were available that might be good, to avoid any defensiveness or discussion as to efficay and perhaps just share experiences?

The forum guideliness do state that evidence needs to be given if it's not a personal experience, which does limit things somewhat for mentioning solutions that are non prescribed NHS ones, and I hadn't read this guideline properly before now.

Anyhow, the forum is trying to 'protect' visitors and until there is widespread acceptance and approval of complementary medicine, it is their perogative to continue to point out that these methods are not as well documented and trialed as HRT.

When it gets personal it's tricky isn't it? There is no need to outright say things don't work though, particularly if it has been a personal experience shared - I wouldn't think to point out the risks of HRT or other medicine to people that choose to use it.  I am pretty sure we are all in favour of anything that heals us and improves quality of life and no one should be dismissed or invalidated.

We need to stick by the forum rules, which I have now read properly  

[Winterose]

I think its a good idea for the ladies who want to investigate alternatives, they can then try them out , for some they may give some help, placebo or otherwise .  They can then discuss away without feeling intimidated by those of us who have tried alternatives and have strong views one way or the other. 

At the end of the day we are all grown up and posts do have the misfortune of being misinterpreted by some.  Perhaps when they have tried everything going they can draw up a chart to see which is the most useful.

[Limpy]

It will be good to find out more about alternatives.
At the moment I am happy on my HRT, but I may not be able to use it forever. Knowledge of the alternatives would be vey helpful then.

[honeybun]

I have messaged Dr Currie with our thoughts and request.

As she is the person who started this great forum I'm hoping she will come back to us with a response.

I passed on our thoughts and wishes....so all we can do now is wait for a response, which you never know ladies maybe what a lot of us hope for.

Fingers crossed that someone is listening to what seems to me to be a bit of a positive message to MM.

Honeyb
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