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Julie08

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Do I still need HRT?
« on: August 19, 2024, 08:58:15 PM »

Hi, I am 52, had a hysterectomy at 29, and started HRT 5 years ago due to hot sweats, low mood and brain fog.
I was initially on Evorel 50, then 100 and then paid to see a specialist as I was feeling unwell 2 years ago and was put on destroyed and ultrogestan.
I have/had endometriosis and my pelvic  pain was back and she said endometriosis people should still have progesterone even without a womb.
I went down to one pump only and have been for 2 years.
Just recently my boobs feel tender and I’m putting weight on my hips.
Do you think that’s my body saying I don’t need it anymore, or that I need to increase my oestrogen?
She has told me to go with  how I feel with dosage.
I am sleeping ok, but definitely warmer at night.
Tia
Julie
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CLKD

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Re: Do I still need HRT?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2024, 08:07:57 AM »

Morning.   Sorry can't help.  There is a lot being learned about endometriosis so mayB ask for a referral to a dedicated specialist or mayB there are support groups on line similar to MM?

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Emma

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Re: Do I still need HRT?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2024, 11:53:02 AM »

THIS IS NOT MEDICAL ADVICE - BUT...

It's understandable that you're concerned about the recent changes in your body, especially given your history and current treatment.

Here are some thoughts to consider:

1. Tender Breasts and Weight Gain: Tender breasts and weight gain, particularly around the hips, are common symptoms of fluctuating hormone levels. These could be related to the estrogen component of your HRT. As you've been on a lower dose of estrogen (one pump of Estrogel) for two years, it's possible that your body's needs have changed, and this could be contributing to these symptoms.

2. Progesterone and Endometriosis: Even without a uterus, progesterone is sometimes recommended for those with a history of endometriosis because estrogen alone can potentially stimulate any remaining endometrial tissue, leading to pain or other symptoms. The tenderness and weight gain might suggest that your hormone balance might need adjustment, but it's not necessarily a sign that you no longer need HRT.

3. Warmer Nights: Feeling warmer at night could be an indication that your estrogen levels are not quite high enough, as low estrogen can lead to hot flashes or night sweats, even if mild. It could also be because it's summer?

4. Listening to Your Body: Your specialist's advice to adjust your dosage based on how you feel is important. If you're experiencing symptoms of estrogen deficiency (like feeling warmer at night) along with signs of estrogen excess (like breast tenderness), it might suggest that your current dose isn't quite right.

Next Steps:

- Trial and Adjustment: You might consider trying a small increase in your estrogen dose (e.g., increasing the Estrogel to 1.5 or 2 pumps) to see if that alleviates your symptoms. Do this cautiously and monitor how you feel.
 
- Monitor Symptoms: Keep track of your symptoms, including any changes in mood, sleep, pain, or other physical changes. This will help guide further adjustments.

- Consult Your GP/Nurse: It might be helpful to check in with a specialist about these changes. They can offer more personalised advice, possibly suggesting some blood tests to check your hormone levels if needed.

Adjusting HRT can sometimes be a bit of trial and error, but with close monitoring, you should be able to find the balance that works best for you.
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joziel

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Re: Do I still need HRT?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2024, 12:04:49 PM »

I have a history of endo with a lap in 2013 and I am symptom-free of endo using 300mg of utrogestan continuously, except for a 3-5 day break to schedule a bleed once a month.

I am also on a high dose of estrogen because I don't absorb well. Currently on 100mcg patch plus 12 pumps of gel. Going up on the patches and down on the gel because I don't really absorb it over 6 pumps going by bloods.

You likely need a lot more estrogen, you are on almost nothing and it's probably not protecting your bones or health at just 1 pump.

You need at least 250pmol serum estradiol to offer protection to bones and for osteoporosis prevention. You are very unlikely to have that on just 1 pump.

Don't reduce your estrogen out of fear of endo, fix the progesterone to enable you to take the dose of estrogen you need.
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Re: Do I still need HRT?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2024, 12:49:35 PM »

It could be a sign to adjust your estrogen or progesterone. Since you’re still warm at night, a small increase in estrogen might help. Check with your doc for the best move.
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Julie08

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Re: Do I still need HRT?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2024, 01:55:22 PM »

Thank you everyone.
I have made an appointment with my consultant on the 4th September.
You are right, need her input too x

She took a testosterone test last year and never had the results so be good to have those too.

Do any of you take testosterone?
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Re: Do I still need HRT?
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2024, 02:02:14 PM »

That is very remiss of a Consultant!   Yes several use testosterone which can be prescribed after a consultation with a dedicated menopause clinic.

Let us know how you get on.
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joziel

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Re: Do I still need HRT?
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2024, 08:25:07 PM »

Just be warned that NHS consultants don't really care about optimal doses and helping women protect their bones. Not unless they are osteoporosis consultants(!).

If they are menopause consultants they will probably deny that it is important. So many women are underdosed on E....
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