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[alltheleaves]

I am struggling with sleeping, what have you tried successfully, ie medication , diazepam works but I can’t take that long term .
I can fall asleep ok initially, but wake up in the night sweating and anxious, nightmares sometimes, and lying awake worrying, and if I close my eyes i get a rush of anxiety in my body like a sinking feeling .
Tired throughout the day , but can’t nap because when I do I get the same anxious rush that wakes me up , I don’t look forward to going to bed , I can’t get to work on a morning.
Currently still trying the evorel sequi only half a patch , thought i felt better off it but after a couple days sweats get really bad .
Tried meditation, I am not sure but my heads all over the place it seems worse on the conti but i am not sure , i did try utrogestan one night down below and I woke up feeling horrible.
Thinking of trying sertraline to settle my anxiety, but this is a vicious circle.
I didn’t have these sleep problems as much before starting the hrt but i was anxious and weepy , not sure i if my hormones are getting lower causing issues had radiation in march /april .

[CLKD]

Morning.   Not sleeping becomes a habit.  I used to wake up to see whether I had been asleep!

Having a bedtime routine can help even if 1 doesn't drop off to sleep.  Cortisol hormone can cause the sudden waking as can hot flushes.

How is your diet overall?  I was advised little and often, 24/7 to keep energy levels even.  there are many types of relaxation therapy and meditation, my problem was that when I put the cassette tapes on, I would fall asleep with a cat on. my lap  .  The idea is to learn the art which can be used when anxiety threatens. 

Yoga?  Face2Face meditation?  Some1 to keep you focussed on over-coming the voices in your head that stop you focussing, this has to be learnt.  It doesn't happen at once. It can feel insurmountable without regular support.  Swimming?  Walking?  Sitting in the shade watching the wildlife? 

Is it your head that is tired or all over body sensation?  My head often wants to stay in bed  . 

What support have you had from the Consultant and his Team following your treatment sessions, it mayB worth while contacting the Ward for advice or getting a follow-up appt.  Where you offered a dedicated Nurse?

[alltheleaves]

Morning.   Not sleeping becomes a habit.  I used to wake up to see whether I had been asleep!

Having a bedtime routine can help even if 1 doesn't drop off to sleep.  Cortisol hormone can cause the sudden waking as can hot flushes.

How is your diet overall?  I was advised little and often, 24/7 to keep energy levels even.  there are many types of relaxation therapy and meditation, my problem was that when I put the cassette tapes on, I would fall asleep with a cat on. my lap  .  The idea is to learn the art which can be used when anxiety threatens. 

Yoga?  Face2Face meditation?  Some1 to keep you focussed on over-coming the voices in your head that stop you focussing, this has to be learnt.  It doesn't happen at once. It can feel insurmountable without regular support.  Swimming?  Walking?  Sitting in the shade watching the wildlife? 

Is it your head that is tired or all over body sensation?  My head often wants to stay in bed  . 

What support have you had from the Consultant and his Team following your treatment sessions, it mayB worth while contacting the Ward for advice or getting a follow-up appt.  Where you offered a dedicated Nurse?

I can drop off ok for a few hours , it’s the waking up , I do feel like I have some sort of issue with going to bed , like a guilt or that there’s no point to it , Or I think why don’t I enjoy getting into nice clean sheets like I used to .

I haven’t been getting much support though the nurse practitioner at doctors is very good , but i have tried to get appointments last week and no one called me back on two days .
My diet is not too bad , but my passion for food has not come back , i just eat because I know I need to .Cooking is a chore and I have fussy kids do that is stressing me too .

I am on the sofa , because I find it hard to go in the bedroom, I spent 5 weeks in bed more or less and I just don’t look forward to going to bed anymore.
Though I was quite content those 5 weeks, watching tv , just getting on with it I wasn’t anxious or low.

I am out as much as I can , walking keeping occupied, I have 4 children in the house , two younger ones , so I have plenty to do .

I have been using meditation on a night which does work but when this hits at 3-4 ish , nothing works, it’s the horrible rush when I try to drop off and the rumination, I need to be able to get to work and I am not getting enough sleep.

Before I started hrt I was low which started from tapering off morphine , it just changed overnight the day I dropped the first taper that was back in April so months ago and My head hasn’t been right since then . I was sweating and feeling very sad , but I could sleep not too bad , and I went back to work end may and got up fine for the first week.

Started evorel sequi 3rd june and I have been up and down so much I haven’t a clue what’s working . The flushes got worse when I stopped the yam capsule and started the hrt , since then I have tried to persevere but my anxiety, is messing with my head .

I have twice taken the patch off and felt like my mood totally lifted for a couple days then , had a bad drop of feeling bad so put it back on .

I think the conti part does effect me because I tried a full patch of it once a woke up in a depressed fog . So I have stuck to half since .

Going into 3rd month of trying , nurse did prescribe the utrogestan everol 50 to try , but my anxiety is terrified of trying it orally because I am scared of what state I will wake up in .

I feel like I have got used to the blah feeling I have , though I do try to have fun in the moment, I have lost all motivation, can’t even be bothered to do my hair or makeup though I still do , it’s a chore , I am functioning in life by just getting on with it but the nights are bad x

[CLKD]

No wonder you are depressed; you have been through a lot in recent months! This too will pass.  U may have to grieve for the person you were B4 diagnosis and treatment as well as a form of acceptance which can take a while. 

I would wake in the early hours, ruminating, having putting the world to rights in my head  . Anxiety can hit during perimenopause - U R not alone there.  Half a day at a time, I try not to look too far forwards. 

When I suffered deep depression I was unable to get out of bed, I may have said B4  until appropriate medication kicked in.