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Menopause Matters magazine ISSUE 75 out now. (Spring issue, March 2024)

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chopsuey

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2024, 09:13:22 PM »

Hi has anyone managed to reduce their cholesterol with out taking statins, if so how did you manage it.

My cholesterol started to go up during peri and before I started HRT, it was 7.4. Two years on it is 6.2. Still high but on a downward trajectory it seems. My ratio of HDL and LDL cholesterol is good and my other risk factors are fine, so I'm not too worried but I get my cholesterol checked every year. Nothing much has changed apart from taking HRT, so assume it must be that which is helping. For that reason, I have to have Utro as my progesterone, as the synthetics counteract any positive cardiovascular benefits the oestrogen gives you.

Not convinced by the evidence on statins and wouldn't personally want to take them.
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getting_old

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2024, 10:53:18 PM »

I can't recall if my high result was pre meno or during peri, but it does make me wonder if the results can be affected by hormone cycles or periods.
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chopsuey

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2024, 06:38:12 AM »

I think lots of factors are involved, including hormones. I don't know if there's much evidence for lowering cholesterol overall but oestrogen helps with lowering bad cholesterol and boosting HDL, the good stuff. It also relaxes blood vessel walls and reduces inflammation in the body, which is a big part of heart disease. Heart attacks and heart disease levels shoot up in women after menopause, as oestrogen really does protect us. Whether or not HRT helps in this respect is not clear yet, as most of the data relates to the old forms of HRT. Not enough studies have been done yet looking at the effects of body-identical/transdermal HRT but certainly synthetic progestogens are a problem.

Triglyceride levels are thought to be as important as cholesterol as a risk factor, so any cholesterol test needs to have the full breakdown of the different types to be meaningful.

For people interested in looking at alternatives to statins, I can recommend A Statin Free Life by Dr Aseem Malhotra, a cardiologist and statin sceptic, who examines the evidence and gives advice on diet, exercise, stress management etc. Worth trying your local library - mine has it, although I did buy my own copy in the end.
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marge

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2024, 01:41:27 PM »

Has anyone tried plant sterols to reduce cholesterol? Friend of mine got hers down from 7.2 - 6.5 over sixth months.
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sheila99

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2024, 02:49:16 PM »

Not enough studies have been done yet looking at the effects of body-identical/transdermal HRT but certainly synthetic progestogens are a problem.
Can you tell us which ones? Currently on utro but get side effects so considering alternatives, possibly mirena.
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CLKD

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2024, 03:10:28 PM »

'benocol' margarine and yoghurt was supposedly good but there isn't any Peer reviewed research yet.
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chopsuey

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2024, 03:16:36 PM »

Not enough studies have been done yet looking at the effects of body-identical/transdermal HRT but certainly synthetic progestogens are a problem.
Can you tell us which ones? Currently on utro but get side effects so considering alternatives, possibly mirena.
Micronised progesterones such as Utro and Cyclogest are the only ones that have a neutral effect on heart disease risk factors.  Mirena should be OK because it's acting where it needs to, so it's such a small dose of synthetic progestogen. My specialist told me that after the first six months, there is not much in the general blood circulation.

Dydrogesterone is said to be one of the safer synthetics, as it is closer in make up to natural progesterone but unfortunately only comes combined with oral oestrogen in Femoston, in the UK at least.

Am guessing you have tried Utro vaginally? I too have awful side effects with it but for various reasons don't think I would tolerate a coil. I think the Mirena is a really good option for many women though, especially if you can't tolerate Utro.
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Taz2

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2024, 04:58:33 PM »

Has anyone tried plant sterols to reduce cholesterol? Friend of mine got hers down from 7.2 - 6.5 over sixth months.

Is it still going down Marge? Under 5 is the optimum (until they change it again!)  : ;D

Taz x
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CLKD

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2024, 05:15:34 PM »

....... in order to prescribe/sell Statins?
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chopsuey

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2024, 06:39:53 PM »

Has anyone tried plant sterols to reduce cholesterol? Friend of mine got hers down from 7.2 - 6.5 over sixth months.

I took tablet based plant sterols for a short while but stopped after reading that it could make things worse. I don't know how reliable that information was but I decided not to take the risk.

There is good evidence for extra virgin olive oil, oats and barley though, for reducing the bad cholesterol and boosting the good.
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Rabbit1977

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2024, 10:12:20 AM »

I got a sudden high reading March 2023 where my triglycerides had gone through the roof. I cut out all cheese, Pepsi Max (not sure what role aspartame plays), sausages and bacon. Then introduced oats, more leafy vegetables, salads with lunches (only ate what I could see had no cream, salt, cheese in) and beetroot. In Dec my cholesterol levels had returned to just outside of 'normal'.
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Dierdre

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Re: Cholesterol
« Reply #26 on: Today at 08:14:58 AM »

Has anyone tried plant sterols to reduce cholesterol? Friend of mine got hers down from 7.2 - 6.5 over sixth months.
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I got mine down with Benecol drinks but they played havoc with my hrt. Plant sterols also attach to estrogen receptors and mimic estrogen so blocking the real thing, didn't realise for a few months. It took me months to get my atrophy under control again.
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