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[fiftyplus]

Hi fizwhizz I too am able to function day to day, hold down a good job but tbh like you I am just muddling through.  My gps are pretty useless and I always feel rushed when I attend an appointment as they are always running late and I am aware I only have 10 mins with them.  Again, I might look at going private in the new year to get this sorted out as it would be great to have someone to just listen to what I am saying and give their "great" professional opinion on how I could help myself going forward but it is actually quite stressful even trying to get an appointment at my surgery in between working and and their availability which is not aloty and that's before I even get there.

[fiftyplus]

Hi fizwizz me again  - I felt fine at 50 but now at 55 I am dry too "down there" which is my worst sympton and I think getting me down.  May I ask more about the DHEA supplements? and I wonder if I would be able to take them as at the moment the only thing I am using to help is the ovestin cream - I wonder ... x

[daisie]

Hi daisie, yeah me too - I have the hrt patches prescription sitting there but so far I have not been brave enough to start using them as I fear hair loss and bleeding which are some of the possible side effects and for me that would be worse than how I feel just now AND I also have a prescription of anti depressants as well which again I have not taken as the possible side effects have put me off such as nightmares and other stuff which again would be worse for me than how I feel just now, so I reckon I am maybe not as bad as I think I am but I am - maybe in the new year ...  I hate this "change" and hate the new me - I wish I could just waken up one morning to an old younger me unchanged as I was before x

hi fiftyplus,it's awful isn't it ,you have the same mindset as me over taking meds ,it's silly realy if we need to feel some benefits we need to take them I keep telling myself to give them time to work but I can't add anymore bad feelings on top of what im already feeling ,iv noticed I'm losing more hair now than ever before so I can't blame hrt for that ,I might try again with the patch and see how long i can stand the side effects ☺️x

[CLKD]

It's The Change - does what it says on the tin 

There are many forms of HRT so if 1 doesn't suit - the suggestion is to allow the body to uptake the replacement for 3 months; sometimes however side effects aren't worth continuing with; so give your body the chance to replace what is lost?   HRT isn't a cure but a way of replacing what the body was making.

I have busy, involved, long dreams with ADs but never nightmares.  Which I suffered for many years.  Which is where the lists helped. 

MayB wait until the New Year if you are in any way involved in festivities between now and 2nd Jan..  In the mean time, be kind to yourselves.  Get into the ☀️ as often as possible; gentle exercise. Eat well.  Keep hydrated. 

[Fizwhizz]

I take a biest compound cream with oestrodial and oestrogen then DHEA supplements which are supposed to be the building blocks for increasing testosterone and progesterone. My natural oestrogen has been up so at times I’ve had too much in my system which is pants as well. The aim is to get these hormones in balance as I understand it, that’s why I’ve not been offered testosterone as everything else’s up and down. I felt ok at 50 but am 54 now. Not sure if my own hormones are gone now hence the decrease in oestrogen. I have no idea whether paid for treatment has been worthwhile or working tbh. I don’t have physical symptoms really other than dry eyes, feeling I need to wee more at the moment the most difficult symptoms are this lack of motivation and kind of detachment from life.

i do have evorel 50 patch in my drawer sat there waiting to be put on when I don't know, but are there if I need to try them ,I had an hysterectomy with removal of my ovaries 8 years ago ,yes the lack of  motivation is the worse ,I also suffer bad with dry eyes that's so irritating, I'm 68 now with no end of it ,but we are menopausal for rest of our lives once the hormones have declined I hope you do find some relief if you do let me know x

It’s tough to know what’s for the best. I’m afraid of feeling worse without the HRT but can’t say it’s been the full answer for me. I’m not to bad with physical ailments so I assume it’s helping in some way but I’m wary of just increasing my dose or adding testosterone into the mix. I don’t think Winter helps, or the news and I even wonder if some of this is post lockdown stuff playing out too.

[Fizwhizz]

Hi fizwizz me again  - I felt fine at 50 but now at 55 I am dry too "down there" which is my worst sympton and I think getting me down.  May I ask more about the DHEA supplements? and I wonder if I would be able to take them as at the moment the only thing I am using to help is the ovestin cream - I wonder ... x

I’m not sure I’ve got the hang of replying to posts. So I’ve quoted you. Yes, the dryness is starting to hit me more so but maybe because my oestrogen is low. The DHEA as I understand it is the raw ingredients for testosterone production and it’s a supplement. I get it privately on prescription so not sure about other routes. My testosterone has been low since I started HRT. I’m not sure how helpful my private treatment has been tbh. I did get given oestrogel by NHS but started to feel worse. When I went privately I was told I had too much oestrogen so it was creating a bigger imbalance and more symptoms. The NHS GP was just telling me to up my dosage when symptoms weren’t resolving 🤷‍♀️

[daisie]

It's The Change - does what it says on the tin 

There are many forms of HRT so if 1 doesn't suit - the suggestion is to allow the body to uptake the replacement for 3 months; sometimes however side effects aren't worth continuing with; so give your body the chance to replace what is lost?   HRT isn't a cure but a way of replacing what the body was making.

I have busy, involved, long dreams with ADs but never nightmares.  Which I suffered for many years.  Which is where the lists helped. 

MayB what until the New Year if you are in any way involved in festivities between now and 2nd Jan..  In the mean time, be kind to yourselves.  Get into the ☀️ as often as possible; gentle exercise. Eat well.  Keep hydrated.

hi clkd,I might go and stick one on and see iv nothing to lose at moment got no plans yet for over Christmas if I start to feel bad ill just take it off, it could be I might need a different patch I have the evoral 50 at moment x

[Petra]

There are ways in which this part of the change seems the most natural thing in the world to me, which isn’t to say it isn’t painful and distressing. And I’ve noticed the experiences you describe in myself, too. (I’m 61.)

A couple of things spring to mind. One is that obviously it’s physically/physiologically impossible to remain as strong and vigorous as we were — all those 40- and 50-year old longevity experts notwithstanding (i.e. wait till they hit 65 or 75!) — and that’s a hard adjustment to make. Another is that, well, I think it might be called ‘wisdom’, that thing where you realise a lot of what you do doesn’t make a blind bit of difference to the world. You realise that the world you can actually affect is a lot smaller than the one you thought you could affect when you were younger. (Me anyway.) And this can be a direct road to ‘why bother’. Again, it makes sense.

All I’m saying is, a lot of this actually makes sense. How to change it is another question. I’ve been trying to change how I think about myself, see myself, be less judgy re my state of mind, relax into it, even sometimes enjoy not wanting to do anything but lay about. A new approach for a new person, given that the old one is not coming back. It’s a work in progress…

Not saying it’s the answer, or possibly any kind of answer. Just throwing it out there for contemplation or something.

[Kirsti]

Hi Everyone

I can really relate to this post so I hope you don't mind me joining in.

I am 53 and have been feeling less motivated and finding it hard to do much for about 6 years now and it has progressively got worse.
I am on HRT and have been on it for a year but am still struggling to be honest and it comes as a shock doesn't it. I am now feeling quite depressed with it all and really struggling at the moment. My Systemic HRT has changed to Lenzetto and I am struggling with that, however I do see a lot of ladies who use it find it very good once they sort out the correct dosage as it is weaker than other HRT apparently, so I am having a discussion with my GP and Meno specialist about that this week. I also suffer very badly from VA and bladder issues, I am on Vagifem for this daily and am about to try the estring as well but the decline in this problem over this year has been horrendous for me. I don't think the time of year is helping either, people are talking about Christmas, putting up decs etc and I just don't feel anything at all, i am just gong through the motions and have no energy to think about decs etc!
I have tried complementary therapies and they do help a bit and I am working with essential oils currently to help which they do subtly but it is so hard to get out of bed and get on with the day when you have no enthusiasm at all.
Anyway hopefully we can support one another, this site is very good at giving support so hugs to everyone else going through this difficult time and lets hope we can get some oomph back soon xx

[daisie]

Hi Everyone

I can really relate to this post so I hope you don't mind me joining in.

I am 53 and have been feeling less motivated and finding it hard to do much for about 6 years now and it has progressively got worse.
I am on HRT and have been on it for a year but am still struggling to be honest and it comes as a shock doesn't it. I am now feeling quite depressed with it all and really struggling at the moment. My Systemic HRT has changed to Lenzetto and I am struggling with that, however I do see a lot of ladies who use it find it very good once they sort out the correct dosage as it is weaker than other HRT apparently, so I am having a discussion with my GP and Meno specialist about that this week. I also suffer very badly from VA and bladder issues, I am on Vagifem for this daily and am about to try the estring as well but the decline in this problem over this year has been horrendous for me. I don't think the time of year is helping either, people are talking about Christmas, putting up decs etc and I just don't feel anything at all, i am just gong through the motions and have no energy to think about decs etc!
I have tried complementary therapies and they do help a bit and I am working with essential oils currently to help which they do subtly but it is so hard to get out of bed and get on with the day when you have no enthusiasm at all.
Anyway hopefully we can support one another, this site is very good at giving support so hugs to everyone else going through this difficult time and lets hope we can get some oomph back soon xx

hi kirsti yes it's terrible one of the worst symptoms for me no motivation iv not put my tree up yet it all seems a waist of effort ,I can't wait for all the fuss of Christmas to be over it's sad feeling like this bur ypy can't help your emotions I do hope you find something to help you through it if so let me know ,x daisie

[Sophya]

From personal experience, making some adjustments to my lifestyle helped me regain a sense of vitality and purpose.
Prioritizing restful sleep was important. Making sure I get enough quality sleep each night has made a noticeable difference in my energy levels and overall mood.
I made a conscious effort not to skip meals and to focus on nourishing my body with wholesome foods. Eating regularly and maintaining stable blood sugar levels contribute to a more balanced mood and sustained energy throughout the day.
Connecting with nature has also been incredibly beneficial for me. Spending time outdoors, whether it's going for a walk in the park or simply sitting in my backyard, helps me feel grounded and rejuvenated.
I learned these steps from this guide to holistic living. There are other steps mentioned there, a total of 7. You just have to enter your email, and you'll have access to it.