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[CLKD]

Lists - I would make lists every evening so that I could see what I *had* achieved  .  Other than getting dressed and washed, everything went on it.  Even feeding the cats!

[Fizwhizz]

Yes, I feel exactly like this. My oestrogen was low so have increased that and feel a bit less wobbly in myself but I just can’t find the motivation. Nothing feels exciting enough to be interested in pushing myself to do it. I kind of do the basics of what’s needed to run the house, get myself up and out of the house for walks etc. I can’t be bothered with food other than doing what’s required to feed everyone else. I’m just flatlining but don’t feel bothered enough to be able to push myself out of the rut I seem to be in.

[daisie]

Lists - I would make lists every evening so that I could see what I *had* achieved  .  Other than getting dressed and washed, everything went on it.  Even feeding the cats!

That's a good idea you can see how you are  actually progressing,every day seems the same to me at moment x

[daisie]

Yes, I feel exactly like this. My oestrogen was low so have increased that and feel a bit less wobbly in myself but I just can’t find the motivation. Nothing feels exciting enough to be interested in pushing myself to do it. I kind of do the basics of what’s needed to run the house, get myself up and out of the house for walks etc. I can’t be bothered with food other than doing what’s required to feed everyone else. I’m just flatlining but don’t feel bothered enough to be able to push myself out of the rut I seem to be in.

hi,fizwhizz,that's exactly the same as me ,I don't feel like thinking about Christmas this year at all I always go back to see My family but ,I feel like giving it a miss this year ,I just can't be bothered with company while feeling like this x

[Fizwhizz]

Ditto, I’m not a fan of Christmas but don’t feel a fan of anything particularly currently. I keep looking at things I could pursue as hobbies to inject something different into life but despite the options out there I just wind up thinking ‘nah, I can’t be bothered’. I’m not up for socialising especially or anything. I’ve always been more introverted but have been able to push myself into things in the past. I just can’t find the motivation to do so currently. 

[daisie]

Ditto, I’m not a fan of Christmas but don’t feel a fan of anything particularly currently. I keep looking at things I could pursue as hobbies to inject something different into life but despite the options out there I just wind up thinking ‘nah, I can’t be bothered’. I’m not up for socialising especially or anything. I’ve always been more introverted but have been able to push myself into things in the past. I just can’t find the motivation to do so currently.

you sound like me again I wonder if its something in the air 😆I do hope there's a cure for this x

[Diamonds and pearls 53]

Daisie, it sounds like you might be depressed. Perhaps have a chat to with your GP and see what they suggest. It might be worth considering anti depressants or possibly some talking therapy. Doctors are very reluctant to prescribe diazepam any more (due to it being very addictive ) Also, sorry if l've missed it but are you on hrt?  This can help low mood and general well being enormously.

[Gnatty]

I think you probably still need to increase your oestrogen a little more. The fact your mood is low suggests this. Anti depressants may be needed but I would optimise your oestrogen levels first and then take a view.

[daisie]

Daisie, it sounds like you might be depressed. Perhaps have a chat to with your GP and see what they suggest. It might be worth considering anti depressants or possibly some talking therapy. Doctors are very reluctant to prescribe diazepam any more (due to it being very addictive ) Also, sorry if l've missed it but are you on hrt?  This can help low mood and general well being enormously.

hi thanks for your reply ,I think its depression too I have some antidepressants but not been taking them its the same with hrt the side effects they cause me to be honest iv not took them long enough to see if they have any improvement for me I feel like I'm adding to My symptons with the side effects I just can't cope with them x

[daisie]

I think you probably still need to increase your oestrogen a little more. The fact your mood is low suggests this. Anti depressants may be needed but I would optimise your oestrogen levels first and then take a view.

hi gnatty, I have tried hrt but the side effects put me off I know I should be on it as i had an hysterectomy with ovaries removed i must be running on empty unless estrogen is somewhere else in my body I know I should fight through the side effects but its the waiting x

[Fizwhizz]

I’m on HRT but I still have stretches of feeling this way. It’s like a functioning depression, I can do certain things (the basics) but am just muddling through and not engaging with life and don’t feel I can be bothered to either. I’m on private HRT treatment and due to the testing I know my oestrogen is low so I’m hoping that will pick up a bit now as I’ve increased my dose. I’m so glad you posted as this lack of oomph and zest for life feeling is one of the menopause symptoms I find is the hardest to cope with. Lack of motivation is listed up as one of the main symptoms of menopause and yet no one seems to mention it  much. I thought it was just me feeling like this and struggling with it.

[daisie]

I’m on HRT but I still have stretches of feeling this way. It’s like a functioning depression, I can do certain things (the basics) but am just muddling through and not engaging with life and don’t feel I can be bothered to either. I’m on private HRT treatment and due to the testing I know my oestrogen is low so I’m hoping that will pick up a bit now as I’ve increased my dose. I’m so glad you posted as this lack of oomph and zest for life feeling is one of the menopause symptoms I find is the hardest to cope with. Lack of motivation is listed up as one of the main symptoms of menopause and yet no one seems to mention it  much. I thought it was just me feeling like this and struggling with it.

hi fizzwhizz,yes it's crippling one of the worst symptoms i think,what hrt do you take and how long have you been on it x

[Fizwhizz]

I take a biest compound cream with oestrodial and oestrogen then DHEA supplements which are supposed to be the building blocks for increasing testosterone and progesterone. My natural oestrogen has been up so at times I’ve had too much in my system which is pants as well. The aim is to get these hormones in balance as I understand it, that’s why I’ve not been offered testosterone as everything else’s up and down. I felt ok at 50 but am 54 now. Not sure if my own hormones are gone now hence the decrease in oestrogen. I have no idea whether paid for treatment has been worthwhile or working tbh. I don’t have physical symptoms really other than dry eyes, feeling I need to wee more at the moment the most difficult symptoms are this lack of motivation and kind of detachment from life.

[daisie]

I take a biest compound cream with oestrodial and oestrogen then DHEA supplements which are supposed to be the building blocks for increasing testosterone and progesterone. My natural oestrogen has been up so at times I’ve had too much in my system which is pants as well. The aim is to get these hormones in balance as I understand it, that’s why I’ve not been offered testosterone as everything else’s up and down. I felt ok at 50 but am 54 now. Not sure if my own hormones are gone now hence the decrease in oestrogen. I have no idea whether paid for treatment has been worthwhile or working tbh. I don’t have physical symptoms really other than dry eyes, feeling I need to wee more at the moment the most difficult symptoms are this lack of motivation and kind of detachment from life.

i do have evorel 50 patch in my drawer sat there waiting to be put on when I don't know, but are there if I need to try them ,I had an hysterectomy with removal of my ovaries 8 years ago ,yes the lack of  motivation is the worse ,I also suffer bad with dry eyes that's so irritating, I'm 68 now with no end of it ,but we are menopausal for rest of our lives once the hormones have declined I hope you do find some relief if you do let me know x

[fiftyplus]

Hi daisie, yeah me too - I have the hrt patches prescription sitting there but so far I have not been brave enough to start using them as I fear hair loss and bleeding which are some of the possible side effects and for me that would be worse than how I feel just now AND I also have a prescription of anti depressants as well which again I have not taken as the possible side effects have put me off such as nightmares and other stuff which again would be worse for me than how I feel just now, so I reckon I am maybe not as bad as I think I am but I am - maybe in the new year ...  I hate this "change" and hate the new me - I wish I could just waken up one morning to an old younger me unchanged as I was before x