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Nas

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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2023, 07:09:12 PM »

Hey Kathleen, sorry today has been tough. I hope your son will be okay? Family issues can be magnified hugely when in the throes of hormonal chaos, so no need to apologise.

Try not to think too deeply about the family visitors descending on you next month. Take deep breaths and a minute at a time if necessary.

I hope your gummies work for you and you sleep well tonight.

If it’s any consolation, my day has been crap. I’ve literally dragged myself around and done  the bare minimum!

Sarah, how are you today ? Xx
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Nas

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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2023, 07:16:51 PM »

Hi Molly,
Did you stop suddenly or taper off slowly? I think I’m going to taper off slowly. Today I’ve put a 75 patch on, then it will be a 50 in a few weeks, then 25 and so on. I really want to get past the cold turkey stage but with a job and teens, being hormonally challenged, isn’t a good thing!

My issue is my bladder. The minute I am on a low oestrogen dose, I’m weeing for England! I really feel like I’m between a rock and a hard place at the moment. Part of me wishes did never touched HRT, ever.

Thanks again x
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SarahT

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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2023, 07:29:44 PM »

Hiya Nas,

What a totally shite day for you in every way. Hope you and husband work things out. Have you seen your advice above to Kathleen?  As you say family issues magnify hugely when hormones are battering away, so I hope you accept this for yourself too. You are amazing at giving others help, just hope you can apply that same kindness to yourself. 😍

Well.... So far so good for me. Husband and myself set off  for a walk before rain set in and managed 1 1\2 hours. I looked at my mood diary for this time last month where I could barely walk across the room, so it really helps me to keep a note of things, just to remind myself of any good that happens as I can be apt to focus only on the bad.
Am still waiting for the crash, and whilst had a nasty morning a couple of days ago, nothing like the scary times a few weeks ago. Maybqe the extra hrt is taking effect? I know I have back up, can increase if need be, anxiety meds if needed and therapy appt hopefully soon. So tentatively okayish.
Not sure I will ever be the old me. Feel like I have been in a  car crash the last year or so with peri madness. Happy to be a different me, but atm I feel like I am a bit of a shadow if that makes sense? Bloody hormonal crap.

Saw your plan to gradually taper off the hrt. Makes sense. Can a gp not focus on the bladder bit separately??

Sorry it's been another bad one. Seems others are having the same problems, so I hope some practical experience from these ladies can help.

Xx
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Mollymoo

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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2023, 07:36:23 PM »

Hi Molly,
Did you stop suddenly or taper off slowly? I think I’m going to taper off slowly. Today I’ve put a 75 patch on, then it will be a 50 in a few weeks, then 25 and so on. I really want to get past the cold turkey stage but with a job and teens, being hormonally challenged, isn’t a good thing!

My issue is my bladder. The minute I am on a low oestrogen dose, I’m weeing for England! I really feel like I’m between a rock and a hard place at the moment. Part of me wishes did never touched HRT, ever.

Thanks again x

Hi Nas
I was so worried about the bleeding even though I had it checked and just felt crap all the time. I was sick of being so grumpy and was blaming my husband but can now see it was me.
I just woke up one day and thought right ime not putting this patch on. Stopping the HRT has helped me to eliminate the symptoms I was having. I now know that the moods was definitely related to the HRT, the bleeding was the HRT, no more heaet palpitations which was probably causing anxiety as now no more anxiety.
I do take an anti d but would much prefer to take this than have those awful symptoms
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Kathleen

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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2023, 08:12:12 AM »

Hello again ladies.

Nas - thank you for your comments and if you are at work I hope you are feeling okay.
I did sleep well last night but I was emotionally exhausted after having anxiety most of the day and dealing with my son. I think I could have slept standing up lol.


My anxiety has definitely been more persistent recently and I've noticed the odd flush etc. Perhaps like many ladies my HRT is not working so well now that I've been using it for over six months. A lower dose brings on flushes and sweats plus VA symptoms and a higher dose risks bleeding. Anxiety gets me whatever dose I am on. As with many of us, the Meno and HRT are a trade off with symptoms. Why can't our bodies just get on and adapt more quickly to low Oestrogen!

Take care ladies and wishing you all well.

K.
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SarahT

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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2023, 09:36:35 AM »

Hey Kathleen,

I hope today improves for you. Can you do a an extra half dose in your hrt? With too little not effective, and too much bringing worse symptoms maybe a small extra would help? Not sure what you are on hrt wise, but.do you use ovestin or similar to treat VA topically?

It is as you say a trade off. For me physical vs mental health.... One day the magic dose may appear to give a bit more stability.

Take care Kathleen, I wish you well. Xx
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« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2023, 10:33:25 AM »

Morning Naz,
I'm new to this forum and this is my first reply but i thought it may help to hear what is happening to me since stopping HRT.
63 yrs old, post menopause, how old are you btw? started hrt last may for muscles, anxiety tinnitus mainly. Symptoms just got worse gradually, was advised to up the dose, ended up on 100 estradot patch and nightly utrogestan, well what a punch drunk experience, agitation, nervousness, anxiety, increased tinnitus, suicidal thoughts, bladder not much improved, VA symptoms not much improved, I called it a day in January, took a lot of courage as change is scary especially as changes brought on by HRT seem to be so dramatic and so sudden.
They said I had histamine intolerance to HRT well the HRT cannot be body identical enough, i wonder if this may be partly what is going on with you? It is all guess work from all of us and from medical profession, its a young science as women's health has been low down on the scale for forever. I won't give advice but i will say to regain a sense of empowerment over the symptoms i am happy to have stopped and it may well be the same for you. i am now 4 months without HRT and trying to find a balance with vagifem and yes VM to keep on top of bladder and VA issues, psychologically it is still unsettled and daily symptoms can fluctuate immensely but i do feel a slowly building sense of calm as I build more healthy practice into my life, daily yoga, just half hour for now, daily walk again shortish and above believing in my body and trusting it more to get the balance right. I think overall its about slowing things down to a more manageable level, bodies post menopause need time, help in any way you can in a 'natural' way to support it. So happy for the women who have a smooth transition and for those that benefit from HRT, but for me and maybe for you temporarily other methods need to be employed to support and eventually heal. I wish you all the energy and good vibes for your decision making. let me know you thoughts.
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SarahT

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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2023, 03:09:24 PM »

Hey Nas,
How are you today?  Are you any clearer on your way forward?

Seems some good advice from others who are in the same situation as yourself.

Hope today was a bit brighter for you

Xx
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Nas

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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2023, 03:29:38 PM »

Thanks all once again,
I wish I knew what to do.
I stuck the 75 patch back on yesterday, but don’t feel right.
Jittery, drunk and spaced out to be precise.

I don’t know if I need more oestrogen, less or none. But I do know I can’t afford to get myself into this kind of perpetual hormonal chaos that is for sure!

Molly, I wish I had the courage to just ditch the patch. Maybe I will after these 4 days are up.
At least then,  as you have done, I can see what symptoms I’m left with.

Primrose, welcome to the forum 🌷
I’m almost 52.
I totally agree with all you’ve said. I started the HRT journey back in 2019, expecting it to be the silver bullet which cured all symptoms. How wrong was I.
It has not done much for me admittedly, other than keep my bladder in check and a kind of libido in place. Moods have been very hit and miss and sleep doesn’t happen without amitriptyline each night.

On reflection, I’m a disaster. Probably should have evaluated all of this sooner. But, as you say, change is or can be scary. I know I need to build more relaxation and natural practices into the equation.

Feeling very out of it today, but will reassess come the end of the week.

Thanks again for all your insightful responses x

 
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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2023, 06:09:49 PM »

hi nas

i just wanted to say im thinking of you.

my hubby keeps telling me that theres a beginning a middle and an end in everything. it just seems sometimes that its a bloody long dark tunnel xxx

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Nas

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« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2023, 06:33:19 PM »

Very true disco.
I remember the beginning bit.
But I will be chuffed if I can see an end!!

Thanks again 😊
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Nas

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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2023, 03:42:50 PM »

Hey poppy,
Where do you get your stuff from? Local supplier? How soon before bed do you take it?


I’ve got an oil, but it makes me a bit wired at bedtime. Think I may be a bit sensitive to these things!

I’ve got myself into a right CBA ( can’t be arsed ) pit right now. Like I’m struggling to be enthusiastic about anything or make conversation with anyone!

I am not wanting to be responsible either.  :-\
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SarahT

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« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2023, 07:01:57 PM »

Hey Nas,

Remember you don't have to be the pretend smiley person all the time. It's ok to feel insular, as long as it doesn't become the norm and spiral downwards. Bit of time for yourself is essential. If I feel like this I allow myself to wallow a bit, then give myself a mental slap on the face and get on with it again.

Discogirl said it well, maybe we need a brighter torch to get through the bloody long, long tunnel. But every tunnel has an end. Sods law some of us seem to go the scenic view to get there....  ::)

CBA sounds like my new motto actually...  But the fact that you got on the forum today...that's a positive isn't it.

Hugs to you, as always Nas

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Nas

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Re: What does my body need????
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2023, 07:18:34 PM »

Thanks Sarah
Gonna need a bloody bright torch to get to see through this shite long tunnel.

It’s like my brain isn’t engaging. It feels swamped. I can only converse for a few minutes and then it’s like “ clear off”

The place where I work is due an inspection soon. It’s the prime focus of  meetings etc. I’m thinking “ oh god here we go again”. I went through that hell 20 odd years ago and here we are again ( except I’m bloody menopausal with aches and pains ).

Sweet Jesus.. just get me off the rollercoaster!! 😩😩😩
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SarahT

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« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2023, 07:29:12 PM »

Yeah. In my mood I want to actually jump off the bloody rollercoaster!

Best steer clear of the inspectors in case they make a comment a hormonal woman can't handle... I feel chuffed I haven't felt like stabbing anyone for weeks now😂 that may not last long of course....

But rejoice Nas. It's the weekend so two days away from the work stuff. Chance to change the batteries in our torches for that loooong tunnel 🙄
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