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[Keep On Swimming]

Sorry, me again, torturing myself trying to understand this HRT/meno malarkey...

Did I read somewhere here that the symptoms are the same for both low AND high oestregen?

Thanks all xxx

[Ellie O]

Usually symptoms are not the same for low and high oestrogen. Important to start from low dose and increase slowly. As soon as symptoms are under control, then stay on that dose.

[Mary G]

I don't know if the symptoms are the same but you can certainly have symptoms if your oestrogen is too high.   Some women have said they feel wired and have difficulty sleeping, others have had breast pain and it can cause migraines or headaches in some women.

[sheila99]

I think the two most obvious ones are anxiety and insomnia which can both be due to too much and too little oestrogen. I believe hot flushes, joint pain and dryness are only from deficiency. As above, starting low and increasing slowly is usually the best way to go.

[Marchlove]

I think you’re right Sheila!

It’s all a question of balance x

[Keep On Swimming]

Thanks all!

Have been feeling really ill (shaky, weak, dizzy, nauseous, lost 1kg, can barely get up) for the past week so actually ended up at the doctor this morning who did full bloods and check up. Results are in and all ok (apart from thyroid but am already increasing the dose).

Dr explained that too much of the gel can give some women meno symptoms and she thinks that 1 pump is actually too high for me! 1.5 pumps deffo is, that's for sure (tried earlier this week and the anxiety/flushes were terrifying). And she's told me to decrease to 0.5 pump. 

Hey ho and off we go!

[discogirl]

hi keep on swimming

i hope this dose works for you.

its hard but give it time as your body has to adjust to the decrease in gel as well.

are you post or peri menopause by the way xx

[sheila99]

Hmm,  not altogether sure I believe that story. If it's only been a week I wonder if you've caught a virus that's giving you these symptoms? 1 pump is already a low dose, most people are stared on 2. I'm not sure how much there is in pop though? I hope you feel better soon.

[Keep On Swimming]

Hi girls,

I'm peri. Oh the joys...

I've been on the gel twice now. Started with 1 pump on 6 Nov for 3 weeks and after only 5 days it was miraculous, I was a new woman. But after 2-3 weeks the night sweats/nausea and morning anxiety started to come back but my gyne said let's stop the gel and POP for a week and do a blood test to see if you are peri or meno (it wasn't herself that prescribed the gel in the first place, it was her colleague because she was on a big hol).

Anyway, blood test revealed peri and so she said, start gel again at 1 pump and that was on 6 Dec. And once again, after 2.5 weeks the meno symptoms came back and this time gyne said ok to try an extra 0.5 pumps which I did on Sun and Mon but as I say the meno symptoms were made much worse with the increase. The anxiety was horrrendous. Non-stop night sweats and nausea. And because I'm getting weaker and weaker the Dr thinks that after 2-3 weeks I absorb too much gel and that makes me sick.

I'm so lost I really feel like giving it all up, to be honest!

[Keep On Swimming]

Here's something to make you all giggle...

Just had an online consultation with my endocrinologist (who I totally love) and SHE said: "You have to stop the gel, that is what is making you unwell - your very fragile thryoid dose is bad again because it can't cope with the highs and lows of peri menopause and adding oestrogen in is only complicating matters. Decrease to 0.5 pump for 1 week then start such and such a product". (She has other highly sensitive thryoid patients like me who have had success with this natural treatment, it seems.)

Fantastic. Now I'm even more lost than ever before. Oh how I WISH I was post meno and wouldn't have these hideous oestrogen highs and lows any more!

Rant over. Thanks for listening 

[CLKD]

Listen to the endocrinologist?