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[HelloSam666]

Hi Furyan,

thank you and yes, I agree, the NHS is of no use for anyone who doesn't fit the standardised HRT medications.

She did say, having looked at the 2 products I buy & the strength of each that if i'm taking a standard pump of the estriol/estradiol cream and one of the progesterone, that irrespective of taking the mini pill it should be fine but of course she couldn't give any guarantees. However, i've just stopped taking the mini pill in the last couple of days as i know i cannot take it indefinitely so i'll see how that pans out. Fingers crossed i'll be okay (it's a bit scary changing something in a routine that works eek) but if I do start experiencing problems, i will book an appt with a private clinic that uses bioidentical hormone treatment. There is one near me https://www.hormonebalanceclinic.co.uk/. Sam x

[Scampidoodle]

I’ve been meaning to ask how you’re getting on with coming off the mini pill Sam?

To update on my situation - I tried the cream once per day. I’d had good results in calming anxiety etc with the odd pump. But when using consistently I got days of feeling woozy and dizzy. Very much like crispychick on here.

So over a month ago I started utrogestan. Bizarrely it doesn’t make me tired. I take it orally. Some ups and downs but generally an improvement. However I think it’s stopped my cycle. Unless I’m on day 47 of my last cycle! I have the Mirena too but still bled but nothing since utrogestan and I’m struggling again now. Panic attack this morning.

Feel like I’m running out of options x

[HelloSam666]

Hi Scampi,

good to hear from you. I'm so sorry you're struggling, that's awful for you. I don't know what to suggest but hopefully someone can offer guidance.

With the mini pill, it's only been a few days really since i stopped and so far, not made any difference to anything which is good. Not had a period either but i guess its just early days from stopping it so we shall see. If i do encounter problems I'm going straight back on it as GP said i can continue for another year if i want to. Sam x

[Scampidoodle]

I’m glad nothing bad has happened and I hope it continues to go well!!

Yes struggling again. I’m not sure if the utrogestan has stopped my cycle which in theory should be a good thing but things still feel like they’re fluctuating underneath.

Tried dim, trying glutathione and considering trying sulforaphane next to try and detox some estrogen. I had a Dutch test and estrogen wasn’t particularly high or low. Xx

[Scampidoodle]

To update in case anyone follows this thread.

Firstly it looks like I’m new but I just couldn’t reactivate my account after leaving for a bit but I’m still the same person!

Tried utrogestan daily but my cycle was 47 days and pre menstrual was worse than normal and prolonged!!

I’m trying the contraceptive implant but that might be coming out tomorrow (long story)

I’ve got some compounded progesterone cream and might trial this next. I tried over the counter but this will be stronger.

I know a few use this like Marchlove. So if anyone has any insight into using compounded cream let me know.

Before I get any scary messages I’m not on oestrogen!!

I’m using the progesterone to try and help my histamine and mast cell issues. Similar issues to Marchlove genetically x

[Mrslolad]

Am not sure if any of you ladies are still around but I wanted to say a big THANK YOU for this thread.

I’ve been really suffering  with  ‘upping the estrogen’ to combat my symptoms and, after months of research and journaling came to the conclusion that the estrogen was the root cause. Being estrogen heavy has caused a nightmare for me and I am now trying to sort myself.

This thread has been so informative!

[Elaine90]

I'm wondering about trying the Biovea progesterone (long story)
Anyway, for any of you ladies that have tried it, is it any better than taking a small amount of Utrogestan transdermally?
They are supposed to have the same active ingredient (natural micronised progesterone), but it seems that a lot of members find a big difference between the different oestrogen patches and gels although they too have the same active ingredient. So was wondering what you found.
Thanks 

[Mary G]

Biovea is much better than Utrogestan in my opinion.  I tried it and had no side effects at all.

I have never tried Utrogestan transdermally and I'm not sure it would work.  Has anyone else tried it?

[Gnatty]

I know of someone who uses it transdermally successfully and it does increase her progesterone as blood tests confirm it. However no womb so doesn't have to worry about that side of things. I keep meaning to try it myself as I am in the same position that I can get away with minimal dose. I just take the utrogestan orally but every other night. It seems to prevent build up that way.

[Mrslolad]

I know no one has posted for a while but I was wondering if any of you ladies are still around.

It’s been so interesting to read stories that are so similar to mine.

I’ve been on HRT for 18 months (diff types) and the E has done nothing but make me incredibly ill and affect my mental health.

This past week, after yet another spiral after reaching the 3 month mark, I decided enough was enough and stopped the patch I was on.  Am pretty sure I shouldn’t be going cold turkey but I just couldn’t cope with it anymore.I’ve lost so much of my life trying to find an HRT that fits and not having anyone listen to what my body has been going through.

I’ve started taking wellsprings serenity daily and will monitor how things go.

I just wanted to say thank you to you all for sharing your experiences.  It’s so hard to find a safe place to share when your experience doesn’t fit the ‘norm’

[Alicey777]

Hi. I just wanted to say I started using Wellsprings Serenity cream in Feb this year, also then tried Biovea, both have the same amount of Progesterone. I had decent results with both, slept better, less hot flushes etc.  Then I decided to try Natpro which is a slightly higher percentage cream and this has completely resolved all symptoms and I feel 10 years younger (I am post-menopause, 55 years old and use no other type of HRT).  Its been a godsend for me  💜

[CrispyChick]

That's amazing alicey.

So natpro is 50mg, is that right? Were you taking two pumps biovea before - so like 40mg??? Or just 20mg?

Your post has made me more positive. I'm certain progesterone is my answer. But unfortunately my whole body is over sensitised and every time I try and add it it causes me severe stomach pain. Yes - from cream. It's the hormone changes that do it.

But I will not give up. Going to try homeopathic dosages and try and sneak up.

I'm pleased it's working so well for you. Have you ever taken estrogen? Or not felt the need??? X

[Alicey777]

Hi.  So I just used exactly what the manufacturers advised with both Wellsprings & Biovea - I think this equates to approx 25mg per day (split between 2 doses). I then read up alot on estrogen dominance symptoms and decided to try Natpro at their recommended dose of 50mg twice a day and this seemed to make alot of difference. This said, it could be that my general hormone levels had improved for the few months of using Biovea & WS, so it could be a cumulative affect but whilst I am getting good results I will stick with the Natpro.

I hadn't been using any estrogen at all but recently I was doing more research and have decided to add a little estrogen to the progesterone cream. I have ordered Wellsprings estrogen cream but its not arrived yet so results are pending..

I have gone down this route of trying different things out for myself as there seems to be SO much conflicting info out there from various mesopause 'experts', it was becoming overwhelming and exasperating. I decided that for the time being, all I can do is trust the reactions of my own body and just take a day at a time!   x

ps, I take a break from the prog cream for 5 days once a month and I notice the hot flashes returning within a day or so. Theres a doctor on you tube called Barbara Hoffmann who says she doesn't take the monthly break but just skips the cream on a sunday instead, but I haven't tried this myself.

[BevM]

Hi

Looking for posts from people who have used natural progesterone cream and had a positive story? I suffer when my oestrogen is high, throughout the first half of my cycle up to ovulation. Then again when you get that rise in the second half of your cycle.

I’ve tried utrogestan and get very depressed and non functional about 5 days in and get insomnia right away too. It’s too much for me.

I’m 43, not fully into peri yet and I have the Mirena coil. I have histamine issues which for those who know are worse when oestrogen is present so need a small amount of progesterone to balance.


All those in the searches I find who have succcess have left? Hopefully not made to leave with negative comments!

Anyway if you use this and you have info please let me know! Thanks x

Hi. Yes, I am using a natural/bioidentical progesterone cream, post hysterectomy. I am only on my second jar, but so far I have noticed I am less anxious, and my sleep is greatly improved.

[sooper_cooper]

Hi this is very interesting. I’ve just been battling with hrt for 6 months trying to get it right but I just kept getting bouts of morning nausea and anxiety . I put it down to progesterone pills. I had a mirena coil fitted and oral oestrogen but again just felt sick all the time. I’ve now stopped oestrogen and just had 7 days of nausea again. I want to have the coil removed so I have no extra hormones in me and see how I am. Then if I need to address a symptom I can. Thus is the first I’ve heard about the progesteron being needed and that it may be the oestrogen that’s too much rather than too little.
How have you got on? Where are you with it all now?