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Vicky81

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Struggling
« on: March 28, 2022, 06:59:59 AM »

Hello all me again,

My anxiety has been through the roof the past 3 days...more so on waking. Yesterday I spent 2 hours crying on the bed to my partner again.
I'm really scared that this is me forever now. I have to in work and do self defence al day....I'm so not wanting to.

I'm on 4 pumps oestrogel, testim and on day 10 of 10omg sertraline. Just not sure what to make of this anxiety anymore....

Any help again would be lovely xx
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VanillaLover

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2022, 07:41:19 AM »

Vicky, I’ve probably asked this already, forgive me, but how long have you been on the HRT?

PS It’s not you forever. Honestly.
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VanillaLover

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2022, 07:43:21 AM »

Also what were your periods doing before you started it? Did you have any other symptoms besides the anxiety? I’m just wondering if the HRT is making you worse ? It seems a large dose to start off on. Did you ramp up to the 4 pumps and T or start on that? Sorry I’m sure you’ve said this all before but I’m half asleep still!
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Vicky81

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2022, 09:24:18 AM »

No worries hun!

I'm 5 weeks into 4 pumps...plus testim from the start.....under dr studd clinic.

I'm day 10 of 100mg sertraline xx
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VanillaLover

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2022, 09:54:26 AM »

Are your periods still regular then? Do you get hot flushes etc? I’m wondering if you could perhaps stop the HRT for a while until you are happier with your mental health medication? The danger is you are trying to change lots of things and once and you won’t know which has helped ! (You may need both, but it will be hard to tell)
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Kathleen

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2022, 10:37:22 AM »

Hello Vicky81

I am so sorry that you are suffering. I have been where you are and I know how awful it can be.

I see that you have been talking to ladies on the private message service, I wonder if any of them would have some advice for you.

I can only say that the mega panics that I used to have did diminish over time and with HRT plus I take an AD called Venlafaxine.

I still have emotional issues and I have been wondering if, for some of us, a large amount of Oestrogel overwhelms our bodies and creates more imbalance. I am with Newson Health which is also a private clinic and they favour more and more Oestrogen but perhaps less, is more?

I am sorry that I can't be more helpful to you but you are not alone and none of this is your fault.

Wishing you well and sending hugs.

K.
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CLKD

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2022, 11:16:27 AM »

U need to stick to one thread and update as you go along, otherwise it is hard work keeping up with what you have/not tried.

How is your diet, eating little and often can help a lot.  That is, every 3 hours, 24/7.
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Dawnp

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2022, 11:17:20 AM »

Hi Vicky. It’s so hard to know which elements are causing which symptoms I know. I certainly know from experience that some SSRIs can ramp up anxiety when you first start them, before they make them better. So that is a possibility.
I would also echo what Kathleen says about estrogen levels. I’m currently dropping mine because it was making some things worse. Again, it’s really hard to know because I know that for the majority the increase in estrogen makes things better rather than worse. I really feel for you because I’m waking up with anxiety and panic as well. x
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2022, 11:33:07 AM »

Hi vicky, sorry to hear how much you are suffering with anxiety I too have been there, still am at times, I can only speak from my own experience, but 4 pumps of estrogel is alot I started on two at 43 and stayed on that dose for a long time, when doctors moved me up to higher doses it sent my anxiety sky high, I stuck with it for ages but I couldn't physically leave the house it was awful, I dropped the dose back down and within a couple of weeks the anxiety became much less, but obviously that's only my experience, but high doses are not always the best way to go, my gp still insists I should be on a higher dose due to my age but my body just doesn't tolerate it, maybe its worth trying a lower dose, I wish you well as I know only too well how horrible anxiety is, I've also come to terms with managing my anxiety in other ways, as hrt was not a complete cure for me, Im now able to function, it's still there at times but it no longer controls me x
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Vicky81

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2022, 03:14:07 PM »

Hi all thanks so much 4 replying.

Vanillalover- I had other symptoms....but anxiety came first.... night sweats...bad moods...out of character behaviour.

Started on 3 pumps now 4...it hasn't made me feel worse just about the same at mo...I'm under Dr studd clinic and they said I'm not on too much oestrogen...xx
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Nas

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2022, 03:21:52 PM »

I would echo that 4 pumps is an unusually high starting dose. Normally it’s two pumps, then review after three months and so on.

Also, I would be inclined to ditch the SSRI for now and focus on getting your hormones in check? Once you have been on the maximum licensed dose  for a considerable while, you could perhaps then think about introducing an anti anxiety medication to work with your HRT?

It’s awful as you want to feel better ASAP but sadly it’s a slow process. Are you absorbing the gel do you think?

What about doing a reset of your hrt and see how you feel?
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Vicky81

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2022, 06:48:17 PM »

Hi NAS

I'm ok on the AD at present..no side effects so il stick this out.

Hrt was stated at 3 pumps now 4....I'm 5 weeks in. I think I'm absorbing as my last blood test for estrogen was 1615. Xx
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2022, 07:02:20 PM »

Hi V,

Sorry the anxiety is still bad. Has the HRT improved the night sweats or any other symptoms yet?

I *think* you start the Utrogestan on the 1st, this might help you. With hindsight I feel I definitely had symptoms of low progesterone years before I took HRT.

Good luck.x
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Vicky81

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2022, 05:40:39 AM »

Hi Victoriav

No I'm still having night sweats...I'm sleeping good but sweats and anxiety...low mood are still present xx
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Unicorn

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Re: Struggling
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2022, 07:41:45 AM »

Hi Vicky

Im so sorry you're still feeling rubbish....huge hug 🥰.  I know exactly how you feel xx

I know the Studd clinic has put you on 4 pumps, but maybe this is too much? I know I'm clutching at straws and I'm no expert, but maybe less is more at the moment? If you have got your own hormones swinging in the background, maybe the large amount of gel is making things worse?

Im on the smallest amount of sandrena and, dare I say it, over the last 3 weeks I started, I feel more 'normal'.

I don't want to make you feel bad but maybe 4 pumps is too much? Xxx


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