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jasmine5

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Help I’m drying up!
« on: August 08, 2021, 03:15:52 PM »

After some valuable advice again please!  Ive been on Hrt for ten years, I'm 63. In the early days I was on Femseven Conti patches and felt very well, then suddenly the patches were discontinued. I was given Evorel Conti patches by my Gp and although they stopped the night sweats and joint pain, they also caused some unpleasant side-effects like breast pain and water retention. Nevertheless I continued with Evorel Conti until around nine months ago when I slowly started to suffer with extreme joint pain, hip pain, dry, itchy skin and eczema on my legs and vaginal dryness.

Gp took a blood test which resulted in my hormone levels being quite low, she thought that I had stopped absorbing the patches. She suggested that I try Oestrogel and Progesterone capsules for three months as the Gel can be adjusted depending on severity of symptoms, but sadly I was unable to tolerate the Progesterone neither orally nor vaginally, this was so disappointing.

I’d recently heard that Femseven Conti patches had become available again so I decided to give them another try but unfortunately my symptoms did not improve, in fact they got worse so I really don't know where to go from here.  Any advice please as both Gp and I have run out of ideas!

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Wrensong

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Re: Help I’m drying up!
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2021, 03:49:23 PM »

Hello Jasmine5, I feel for you, having also found Utrogestan impossible & having so wanted it to be the one given its gold standard status.  But there are quite a few of us who can't tolerate Utrogestan & there are other possibilities for progestogens to combine with the various oestradiol preparations: MPA/Provera & Norethisterone, both tablets, or a progestogen releasing IUD, e.g. Mirena (containing Levonorgestrel the same as in FemSeven) if that's an option for you. 

MPA has the advantage of coming in a range of strengths.  Some women feel OK on it, some don't.  Should perhaps just say MPA is possibly not the best choice for anyone with osteopenia/osteoporosis, as there are suggestions in the medical literature that it's less helpful for bone health than some other progestogens, though also that any deleterious effects may be offset by taking enough oestradiol.  It's also considered by some menopause authorities to have a slightly less favourable risk profile than some forms of progesterone.  Gosh - not really selling it here am I?  Sorry - just feels responsible to state potential pros & cons.  I have taken MPA myself as I need oestrogen & testosterone, struggle with progesterone intolerance & there are pros & cons in many areas of daily life we face as adults & simply have to weigh up for ourselves.

Norethisterone may not suit you if you had side effects from Evorel Conti as it's the same progestogen in that, but in combination with a form of oestradiol you absorb better you may find you tolerate it well.

There is also the Femoston range with oestradiol combined with dydrogesterone, a progestogen with a reputation for being kinder to the body than most, which some women find considerably easier to tolerate.  But again this is an oral HRT preparation if you need/prefer to avoid tablet HRT.

In addition to Oestrogel/Sandrena there are the various oestradiol-only patch brands & doses, plus Lenzetto spray.  Many of us seem to get good absorption from Estradot patches which I find also stick well.

There are studies that link some types of dryness (especially in the eyes) with androgen deficiency, so you may find taking a little testosterone helpful if you opt for a regimen without an overly androgenic progestogen.  I certainly find T helpful for systemic dryness.

I hope you manage to find a combination to suit that gives you the full benefits of HRT.
Wx
« Last Edit: August 08, 2021, 06:45:25 PM by Wrensong »
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sheila99

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Re: Help I’m drying up!
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2021, 09:48:06 PM »

It might be worth considering long cycle sequi which will give you more 'good' days if you can't find one without side effects.
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