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Michelle7474

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Re: I’ve taken patch off !!
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2021, 12:34:21 PM »

Hi Michelle,
I do hope the anxiet settles for you soon, as it is the most god awful thing to experience in life.
Anxiety was my worst symptom at the start of menopause, it just hit me out of the blue and I couldn'rt drive my car for longer than 10 minutes before feeling like I wanted to pass out!

I would definitely go out for a walk each day because I don't think it is that easy to control hormonal anxiety to be honest. I think it is caused by low or fluctuating oestrogen levels and because oestrogen is low in supply, adrenelin kicks in instead, causing that fight or flight feeling.

It has taken me two and a half years to drive local (ish ) journeys (we are talking 5/10 miles, but very fast and bendy roads).  At one point, I was going to quit driving as I would return from each journey utterley exhausted!

Don't let it beat you, else it will severely hinder your life I thinl.

I too am envious of women who say HRT is a 'game changer' etc etc.. for me it controls the most basic of symptoms and for now I can get in my car and do what I need to do, but there are other symtoms which it does not help with right now.

If ONLY it was the hot flushes and no periods. But the anxiety and insomnia, are killers and not to be taken lightly.

Best of luck and to everyone else going through this journey.

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Hi Nas
Thankyou for replying

I agree the aniexty is the worse thing ever & it over took my life to be honest
I make myself go for a short walk each day now which is fine but then on Monday it was big issue but aniexty was so bad that day .. it’s just some days the worst aniexty comes in the biggest form.. I always try and not let it get to me but it always does.

I’m almost positive I’m due a period this week but because of stopping patches I’m not sure when it will come , but this is how I felt before patches when it was that time of month but not as intense as now since patches it deffo got worse as in more intense but that’s also my hormones under the HRT also as peri is difficult with the rises and falls hormones
.. once I have a bleed I can see how the next month follows.

It’s bloody awful and I would hate for anyone to suffer this

I’m a bit nervous to take anything for it as I know the beta blocker slows down heart rate etc and I think that might set me off worse & then was told could cause lightheaded/Dizziness but again that’s what sets me off
that’s what my head thinks and that’s why I’ve never taken it.
The rescue remedy sprays seems to calm me but not fully but grateful for the bit of calm.
Today I feel okish not full on aniexty just got that feeling in tummy like butterflies hard to explain
I’ve eaten so I’m not hungry but you could mistake it as a hunger pain.
But I’ll make myself go for a walk regardless as it’s took too much over my life for the past 4 months

It’s not as bad and as when I was on HRT as it became constant but it’s there .. maybe once I bleed I can see where I’m at as in symptoms
I just try and focus on other things but always get distracted into thinking about this again hahahaha

Did you take anything for aniexty Nas ? How you feeling now , are things better for you , I hope they are

Life as a women eh !!
I was fine and dandy until that first aniexty attack .. I did get aches and pains and foggy brain and hot face and chest ( not so much a flush ) pulpitations and each day I would feel like something extra was added but compared to the aniexty I would take all those back in a heartbeat

Thanks for reading :)
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Nas

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Re: I’ve taken patch off !!
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2021, 01:17:15 PM »

Yes it is a dreadful experience, but so common that's the thing.

I also have rescue remedy spray and am constantly spraying that in my mouth lol!
I also take CBD oil and I do find that a couple of drops of that calms my brain for a bit.

I know what you mean re the butterflies in tummy feeling. I have that today and that is because I have to drive the fast bendy road. I did it yesterday and was fine and two other journeys which I hate, but it doesn't seem to stop the anxious feeling for some reason!

Do you work at present? I do, but have quite a basic job. Would love to find something better paid, but the thought of an interview.. no thanks!

Nas x

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Michelle7474

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Re: I’ve taken patch off !!
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2021, 01:42:08 PM »

Yes it is a dreadful experience, but so common that's the thing.

I also have rescue remedy spray and am constantly spraying that in my mouth lol!
I also take CBD oil and I do find that a couple of drops of that calms my brain for a bit.

I know what you mean re the butterflies in tummy feeling. I have that today and that is because I have to drive the fast bendy road. I did it yesterday and was fine and two other journeys which I hate, but it doesn't seem to stop the anxious feeling for some reason!

Do you work at present? I do, but have quite a basic job. Would love to find something better paid, but the thought of an interview.. no thanks!

Nas x
Hi again Nas
I was working up until May and now I don’t work due to this aniexty & always feeling like passing out which is aniexty I presume
Docs did a thyroid test and that’s come back in normal ranges
Still awating blood sugar levels results.
My inr however is great so seems my bloods always seem ok ( thankfully )

I worked in a kitchen & for health and safety reasons was not good with this aniexty & always feeling jittery and shaking & that’s why I no longer working ( I miss work but if I’m not comfortable in myself how can I fulfil my job role )
I miss work & people but i know this was getting worse not better.
I just can’t wait to get back to my normal self … if I could get rid of this anxious feeling I would be fanstastic lol

I have been pushing my self to go out .. even when im having the headrush feeling which is the worst feeling , just so im used to going out
as before all this I was never in never mind staying in
I’m doing it alone now aswell where as last week week before I only did it with my husband & most times that would be going for a drive after he finished work.

So I’m my mind even if I walk to mother in laws which is literally same street takes about 10 min to walk maybe less it’s somthing as in a start & not that far where if I was to have a big aniexty episode I can walk back quick kinda thing

Before initially starting HRT I never stayed in doors only one my day off on the morning .. by afternoon I was gone and everyone used to say you never sit still
Haaaaaa how time changes lol

I’m hoping that once I have this bleed which is deffo due this week that my own hormones settle to how they was before the HRT .. which would be better for me as I would beable to do everything I’ve always done & only feel like this when a cycle was due ( that was pattern before )

I live in hope Nas
I also know I can’t let this beat me

I’ve used twice today two sprays of rescue remedy and felt calm both times I also don’t want to come dependent on this
Just at the moment well since May it’s been bloody awful
April was my first aniexty but that was a one off few days before a cycle .. that was before HRT … so I would say may was when it became too much although first two weeks of HRT was fab lol .. with all other symptoms.

Strange how our bodies work
I have an CBT course booked in and started this month .. so hoping maybe that and a rebalance of my hormones help.
My GPS ( get a different one all the time ) have been good but limited on time & probably was sick of hearing off me
But my pharmist is a godsend & talks loads through with me .. she was one who suggested tht I stop the patch or lower it as thinks too much was making symptoms worse & then after emailing DR heather , she basically confirmed the same kinda thing
I do feel better off them .. now is the task to get myself back to how I was

That butterflies/ hunger feeling gets too much when feel it cause your waiting for it to go bang lol 😂 I have to laugh as I would cry ( actually I don’t cry much , I’m just more angry at myself for not been able to control this better ) and I shouldn’t be such a tit about it

I’m glad you still able to get out and about Nas .. I’m glad your fighting along that’s my plan .. beat this go forward and stay forward hahahaha sounds good written down now need to put into practice :)


 
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Mindfulmoomins

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Re: I’ve taken patch off !!
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2021, 10:54:44 AM »

I identify with so much of what you have said Michelle.

I am trying a higher dose of estrogen to try and help but we are all different so I am pleased you feel better off HRT at the moment. It’s such a science and an art to work out what is right for us. As I previously was much better on a relatively high level of estrogen and an antidepressant I am hoping this will help me again.

I too need to buy shares on Bach rescue remedy!

Much love, xxx
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Michelle7474

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Re: I’ve taken patch off !!
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2021, 11:01:04 AM »

I identify with so much of what you have said Michelle.

I am trying a higher dose of estrogen to try and help but we are all different so I am pleased you feel better off HRT at the moment. It’s such a science and an art to work out what is right for us. As I previously was much better on a relatively high level of estrogen and an antidepressant I am hoping this will help me again.

I too need to buy shares on Bach rescue remedy!

Much love, xxx

Hi :)
I have used the spray daily and although I feel calm , I think I need somthing else
What antidepressants do you use ?
They offered me one but the initial side effects always seem to put me off as I don’t wanna feel any worse than I do now
But I know with this each day I can’t carry on like this.

It’s an awful horrible experience & I always sit here and wonder did hormones cause this ( I’m not convinced but then I read so many more are suffering with it with peri/menopause )
I wish I wasn’t such a tit to take things :(

Hope your having a good day
Today is a jittery bad one for me ..
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Mindfulmoomins

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Re: I’ve taken patch off !!
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2021, 11:10:30 AM »

Oh Michelle, thinking of you. The jittery days are bloody annoying, exhausting and depleting.

I was already on Fluoxetine but Mirtazapine 15 mg was added at the start of perimenopause and it did really help. It works on the adrenal parts of your brain I believe and you can take up to 45mg.

Wishing you some peace today xxx
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Michelle7474

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Re: I’ve taken patch off !!
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2021, 11:28:57 AM »

Oh Michelle, thinking of you. The jittery days are bloody annoying, exhausting and depleting.

I was already on Fluoxetine but Mirtazapine 15 mg was added at the start of perimenopause and it did really help. It works on the adrenal parts of your brain I believe and you can take up to 45mg.

Wishing you some peace today xxx

Did you have any initial side effects when taking FLuxotine
My mate is on that one and she said it’s fab .. I’m not sure which one they said about steraline ( probably spelt it wrong ) lol

I know in myself I have to do somthing as this is draining all the time & As your aware gets too much.
I need to get me back .. I was hoping coming off the patches would do that but as I said I feel good in myself just not with this jittery panic aniexty whatever it is

Xxx
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Nas

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Re: I’ve taken patch off !!
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2021, 12:21:12 PM »

Hi Michelle,
Sorry today is a bad jittery day ☹️
Maybe a low dose anti might help take the edge of things?
Would  you re consider the lowest strength HRT patch ( 25mg?)

I know without the oestrogen, I can’t do a lot and that scares me greatly!

Hopefully your hormones will stabilize and you will get on an even keel again. Are you peri menopause? If som it’s those fluctuations which cause all that ups and downs I think 🤔

Xxx Nas
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Michelle7474

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Re: I’ve taken patch off !!
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2021, 12:32:52 PM »

Hi Michelle,
Sorry today is a bad jittery day ☹️
Maybe a low dose anti might help take the edge of things?
Would  you re consider the lowest strength HRT patch ( 25mg?)

I know without the oestrogen, I can’t do a lot and that scares me greatly!

Hopefully your hormones will stabilize and you will get on an even keel again. Are you peri menopause? If som it’s those fluctuations which cause all that ups and downs I think 🤔

Xxx Nas

I think I’m gonna have to try somthing
It’s only when they said monitor your BP & heart rate tht stopped me taking them thinking my heart rate is ok ( daft i know ) but when you fear like this about side effects

I’m waiting on a bleed since finishing patches Nas & I know it’s due ( according to my cycles ) so i was hoping after that my own hormones would settle kinda things as it’s early days still coming off them
Im peri & was on sequi 50 up until 9 days ago but these symptoms was worse on the patch ( although today seems the same )

I will get there eventually & once I pluck up the courage and pop that first Aniexty tab I prob be like is that it lool
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Michelle7474

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Re: I’ve taken patch off !!
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2021, 03:53:12 PM »

I picked up the courage and took a tab !!
Today as been bloody awful all day just wasn’t getting a break from it at all
Just before 4 o’clock I had enough and took 10mg proponol
I feel relaxed at the moment but a bit woozey head feeling and & dry mouth & I’m dry heaving ( dunno if that’s just me ) but I did read that the first one could make you dizzy etc but when body is used to it this subsides ( I hope ) I don’t like this feeling at all but it’s better being relaxed than panicking

I’m proud I took that step I had to do something as it’s just way out of control
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