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Stockport1965

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Hysteroscopy Pain
« on: February 25, 2021, 08:36:28 PM »

Having had 1 & half days bleeding on day 15 of everol conti patch, GP has sent me of to gynaecologist. Apparently I am having an internal scan, (only had one done in 2020). The booking nurse said I may also have a hysteroscopy and take paracetamol. I have read so many reports of how painful it is. I went through menopause 10 years ago and have no children.
Do I let them try?? Or do I refuse from the outset and request a general anaesthetic?
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Dandelion

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2021, 05:00:54 PM »

Having had 1 & half days bleeding on day 15 of everol conti patch, GP has sent me of to gynaecologist. Apparently I am having an internal scan, (only had one done in 2020). The booking nurse said I may also have a hysteroscopy and take paracetamol. I have read so many reports of how painful it is. I went through menopause 10 years ago and have no children.
Do I let them try?? Or do I refuse from the outset and request a general anaesthetic?
I asked for general. gynaecologist couldn't get inside me as cervix closed.
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Katejo

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2021, 05:30:10 PM »

Having had 1 & half days bleeding on day 15 of everol conti patch, GP has sent me of to gynaecologist. Apparently I am having an internal scan, (only had one done in 2020). The booking nurse said I may also have a hysteroscopy and take paracetamol. I have read so many reports of how painful it is. I went through menopause 10 years ago and have no children.
Do I let them try?? Or do I refuse from the outset and request a general anaesthetic?
I asked for general. gynaecologist couldn't get inside me as cervix closed.
  Same for me. However I didn't need a hysteroscopy until the bleeding had continued for  more than 6 months. On first starting the patches, I was told not to be concerned about any bleeding as it was normal.
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Stockport1965

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2021, 05:46:39 PM »

Having had 1 & half days bleeding on day 15 of everol conti patch, GP has sent me of to gynaecologist. Apparently I am having an internal scan, (only had one done in 2020). The booking nurse said I may also have a hysteroscopy and take paracetamol. I have read so many reports of how painful it is. I went through menopause 10 years ago and have no children.
Do I let them try?? Or do I refuse from the outset and request a general anaesthetic?
I asked for general. gynaecologist couldn't get inside me as cervix closed.
  Same for me. However I didn't need a hysteroscopy until the bleeding had continued for  more than 6 months. On first starting the patches, I was told not to be concerned about any bleeding as it was normal.
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Yeah I do feel as though GP has over reacted slightly....he said if he didn't do anything this time, next time I bleed it may be serious.
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Wrensong

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2021, 06:01:40 PM »

Hi Stockport1965, so sorry to hear you have this nuisance to deal with.  If I'm right in thinking you are new to HRT, did your GP explain why he/she is referring you for a scan for the bleeding at this very early stage? 

It's fairly common for women to have some bleeding during the first few months of conti (no bleed) HRT use & we are usually only referred for investigation if this goes on beyond the initial 6 months during which the body is adapting to the new influx of hormones, unless there is some reason to suspect there is another cause for the bleeding.

I agree with Avalon's suggestion to do a search for posts on bleeding on Evorel Conti as this has been raised quite often on the forum.  I had intermittent bleeding throughout the 2 years I used EC but it was not thought necessary to investigate this until it continued beyond the first 6 months.  Please do a search if you have time, have a look at the 2 links & extracts from them below & maybe discuss them with your GP to make sure you're on the same page? 

If you would find it reassuring there will be no harm in attending for a pelvic scan & it's a simple procedure that's not usually uncomfortable but for the full bladder we are usually asked to attend with.  I would not expect a hysteroscopy to be thought necessary for bleeding during your first 6 months of conti HRT use unless the scan shows anything to warrant it or as I said above, your GP has another reason to request one.

1)  from the Evorel Conti PIL:-

https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/10929/pil

"If you get breakthrough bleeding or spotting, it is usually nothing to worry about, especially during the first few months of taking HRT.

But if the bleeding or spotting:

Carries on for more than the first few months
Starts after you have been on HRT for a while
Carries on even after you’ve stopped taking HRT
Make an appointment to see your doctor as soon as possible. It could be a sign that your endometrium has become thicker."

2)  From menopause authority Dr Louise Newson's website:-

https://www.menopausedoctor.co.uk/professionals/ten-tips-for-prescribing-hrt-remotely

"Ten Tips for Prescribing HRT Remotely

9. The majority of women who bleed when they are taking HRT do not have underlying pathology
Vaginal bleeding is a very common side effect of taking HRT. Bleeding usually settles within the first three to six months of starting HRT. Every time the dose of HRT is increased, or the type of HRT is changed, then bleeding can occur. Pathology is more likely in women who have heavy and prolonged bleeding and women who have bleeding beyond 6 months despite modifying their progestogen intake or where there is a concern about the clinical presentation or bleeding amount / pattern should be investigated appropriately"

Alternatively you could perhaps email MM's Dr Currie for her advice (I believe there is a small fee for this) which you could then show to your GP if need be.

I hope this helps.
Wx

P.S. You've posted again while I was compiling this!
« Last Edit: February 26, 2021, 06:04:41 PM by Wrensong »
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Stockport1965

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2021, 06:13:15 PM »

Hi Stockport1965, so sorry to hear you have this nuisance to deal with.  If I'm right in thinking you are new to HRT, did your GP explain why he/she is referring you for a scan for the bleeding at this very early stage? 



I told him all the info at my appointment last week. To be fair, I have lost faith in the GP's, you almost have to tell them facts about everyday things, osteoporosis & HRT.

I only had an internal ultrasound in late 2020. Everything was perfect. The appointment for gynae is Wednesday, so at least not long to wait. (I do feel as though I am taking an appointment of someone who really needs it)
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Wrensong

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2021, 06:40:07 PM »

Sorry, yes I see I missed you'd already had a transvaginal scan.  Unfortunately some GPs don't know that much about menopause & it can be very frustrating when we need their help with matters they have not been trained to deal with.  He is just looking out for you.
 Good luck for Weds, I expect it will go well & hope you will not continue to have probs with bleeding.
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shrosphirelass

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2021, 07:14:51 PM »

I went on to evorel conti last February and had bleeding on and off. I had flooding, clots etc in the summer which really scared  me and resulted in anaemia. At this point I was sent for a urgent gynae appt. I had a scan which didn't show anything untoward except a lining of 5mm. I was told I needed to have a hysteroscopy as it was over the threshold of 4mm. I asked for sedation which they said was not option. I said I could not have it otherwise due to anxiety. I was made to feel awful and sent home with no options. After complaining I was then offered it under general anaesthetic. I was not keen on having it at all as the lining was still this and less han 6 months had gobe since starting conti. I managed to negotiate a scan 3 months later because the lining was only just over the cut off. I had a follow up and the lining was ok but as I was still having spotting they still wanted to do the hysteroscopy. I said I would rather wait until covid cases had reduced so I was booked for a scan for 6 months which is next month. My bleeding has largely subsided but I do get the occasional spotting. This of course could be an issue or it could be HRT related  or breakthrough bleeding.

It is your body and you do have options but you do have to fight for them. What the medics should do is clearly state the risks and benefits with the alternative options. Good luck.
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warwick01

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2021, 09:58:15 AM »


Hi Stockport - must be neighbours as I live in Manchester ;D

It's common to bleed on any conti HRT so not sure why you were referred at such an early stage.

I had a heavy bleed October and again January so was sent for a hysteroscopy. It wasn't that bad, yes uncomfortable but bearable. Please don't worry if scan is fine they may not do one. My lining was 7.8 which is too thick so had to go from sequi HRT to combi. I have a review in June.

Wx
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suzysunday

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2021, 04:12:29 PM »

I had a general anaesteic for my hysteroscopy, it wasn't offered but I asked.  The hospital was very good about it.  If I had not done my research I wouldn't have known it was an option.  It was right for me, no overnight stay.  We are all different what we can cope with.
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Stockport1965

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2021, 02:37:23 PM »

Thankfully I didn't need a hysteroscopy, all was OK. The consultant did say that if anything was found, a hysteroscopy would have to be done and I could have it today or under a GA :)
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shrosphirelass

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2021, 06:25:04 PM »

Good news Stockport
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Wrensong

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Re: Hysteroscopy Pain
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2021, 10:06:44 AM »

Pleased to know all went well & no hysterscopy required  :)
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