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[Dancinggirl]

Hi Hazy
There shouldn't be any problems with the local oestrogen - unfortunately the leaflets and contraindications are exactly the same as for systemic HRT which is crazy but, as I said before, little if any oestrogen is absorbed around the body.
The risk of blood clots and stroke are very small even when taking full HRT. Do you have high blood pressure? I didn't think migraines gave an increased risk of stroke!!!!?

Oestrogen will protect you from heart disease and osteoporosis and can reduce the risk of bowel cancer. If you aren't overweight or suffer from high blood pressure then HRT should still be an option and I believe many migraine sufferers do well on the trans dermal HRT - but I can understand your reluctance as full blown migraines are truly horrid.

The newer types of ADs which are SSRIs don't act in the same way as the older types like clonidine.  Have you tried Citalopram? The gynae that I saw told me his wife, who has had breast cancer so can't take HRt, has found Citalopram really helped her terrible flushes and night sweats and with very few side effects. My work colleague who is on Citalopram is in her mid 60s and has actually lost weight, is sleeping better and has more energy.
Do seek advice from a meno clinic if you can - there are things that you can try.
DG x

[SallyG]

Dear All, I have just woken up with hot flushes and anxiety……A week or so ago I ran out of red clover, it being christmas and all……maybe it is connected to that. I am going to see a specialist on thursday…I figure I'm worth it. I just want to feel normal again.
Thank heavens for this forum. I just pray I can sleep tonight.

Sally Gxx

[Dancinggirl]

Hi SallyG
Are you peri menopausal? If so your hormones will be fluctuating and this can result in flushes etc coming and going.  If you are post menopause then I'm afraid the hormone levels drop gradually over a couple of years and then bottom out. Some women don't get the meno symptoms until the oestrogen levels really drop low.
Red clover and other isoflavines/phytoestrogens in your diet are supposed to help but I didn't find they did.  I think if your flushes etc are very mild and infrequent then Red Clover might help a bit. Go back on the Red Clover and see if it makes a different otherwise your best option is HRT. You may be lucky and find your flushes etc. only last a few months and settle - many women sail through their menopause in this way.
Do read up all the info to the left of this screen to get clued up.   Dg x

[klynnbagstaff]

I suffered with extreme hot flushes right away when i was going through peri so about the years. Gp wouldn't put me on any firm of hrt until i stopped my periods for at least a year. By the time i finished my periods i also was suffering from no sec drive at all, memory loss, clumsiness and soaking wet flushes. Hrt helped right away. Thank goodness i was taking citalipram already for anxiety or i think i would of seriously committed suicide. I already tried that when i was first going through peri. I still struggle and really feel for all of you.

[janiet]

Hi everyone I am new to this site and at my wits end. Hot flushes and anxiety. On hrt t but intoleraant to progesteroñe. On two monthky eostrogen then northisterone for 12 days. Is anyone else on this ? Appreciate any replys please x

[Dancinggirl]

Hi janiet and welcome to MM
Do start your own thread so more ladies can support you.  You might do better on Utrogestan for the progesterone - it's bio identical, the same as our own hormones, so is kinder.  DG x

[P42893]

I'm a 45 year old woman with no kids and have just returned to work after almost 6 weeks off to help get my extreme peri menopausal symptoms under control. I've been struggling since October .As an educated woman I am horrified at how little I knew about the menopause and about how little it's spoken about and about how badly it affected me. I stopped sleeping, had night sweats that left me soaked and had up to 15 soaking not flushes in every waking hour swiftly followed by an ice cold flush. I genuinely thought I was going mad.

I saw three doctors at my surgery whose solutions ranged from 'Japanese women cope with this on their own eat more soya' to 'I don't prescribe HRT' to you 'need anti depressants (I was tearful but didn't cry when I was told this)'. Finally on my fourth trip I met a doctor who not only cared about helping me but listenes to me and more importantly offered help and stuck with me. I cannot tell you how important it is to persist and find a doctor that is medically competent , willing to help and able to listen ......really listen. She was amazing. I am now on an SSRI which i know is also used for depression BUT has known benefits for menopause ....it took 31 days but literally overnight on day 31 I went from 15 hot flushes a day to none ( I was still off sick) and night sweats stopped completely. I was given a sleeping tablet to get me some sleep. Back at work now the not sweats are back about three times a day....which is due to stress but my blood pressure is down so I'm about. To try HRT.

PLEASE don't put up with symptoms you feel are too much, help is out there, we just have to be persistent in securing it.....don't give up. I am proof that the right help makes a huge difference. I Thought I'd lost my smile but it's badck

[Kathleen]

Hello P42893 and welcome to the forum.

This whole menopause struggle came as a shock to me as well. I clearly remember my GP asking me if I was experiencing night sweats because at 49 that was likely and I honestly thought he was mad. When he said that some ladies require HRT I am ashamed to say I assumed these women were being a bit wimpy and a few sweats couldn't possibly warrant hormone treatment. Well nearly ten years later I have certainly learned my lesson!

I agree with you that as an intelligent person I am amazed at my level of ignorance. Even when my symptoms began I believed I knew about the menopause, turns out I knew diddly squat!

The advice and support provided by the wonderful ladies on this forum have helped me so much and I know you'll be helped too.

Take care and keep posting, you are not alone.

K.

[Sarah67]

Hi All, first post to this forum.  I am 47 and have a 7 year old daughter.  Was confirmed as in the menopause 3 years ago, but only started getting hot flushes a couple of years ago. I have a fab doctor who went through all options.  HRT at bottom of list as my mum has had breast cancer (she is fine now).  Fluxotine (Prozac) was first on the list and worked extremely well, but I totally lost my sex drive so gave them up after a month.  Have now got Clonidine Hydrochloride but have not tried them yet.  Had a go at some herbal remedy but got bad stomach cramps (I have too much iron).  Am now getting a big tube of fat around my belly!  And very achy knees.  Thank goodness I have a wonderful husband!! 

[Carolyn]

I seem to have the hot flushes under control - fingers crossed

It was suggested by my Doctor to take Sage so for the last month I have taken 2 capsules a day with my breakfast.  At first I noticed that the hot flushes were not around anymore but just put it down to the fact that I was away on Holiday over the Easter Break, with no stress and relaxing but I'm back and Easter has gone and touch wood still no flushes.

It's worth a try if you are struggling - me I try anything!!

Hugs

 

[ShazAtko]

I get night sweats, and also am very sensitive to changes in temp. For example have just eaten a cooked meal and sweat pouring off me. I work in a hospital so it's always hot which doesn't help and can feel the beads of sweat running between my boobs! 😕

[Taz2]

Soggy bra! I remember that feeling well. I used to take a change of clothes into work with me. Hated that always damp feeling.

Taz x

[ShazAtko]

Being big busted get sweat rash under em too......oooh the joys!!!

Shaz x

[donna1962]

i have suffered for 2 years now with constant sweating hated going any where,was reccomended sage tablets OMG only used for a week so far have not had 1 sweat,now looking FORWARD to my holiday yippee

[cbj2605]

Hi

Does anyone have an NHS doctor who has treated their symptoms with progesterone?

I have been reading that it is a first line treatment in France and commonly used in the USA, with less side effects and better cardio and bone health also.

Best wishes