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[Rosie63]

Hi ladies.  I’m probably quite a bit older than most of you, now 66, but I remember when I first started going through the menopause around 50, the first symptoms I had were aching muscles and joints. I kept thinking I had a virus but after speaking to an older lady at work, I realised it could be hormone related.  Anyway, long story short, I saw my GP and was started on HRT and within a week, my symptoms had all but gone.  I’ve been on HRT ever since and whenever I’ve tried to stop or my oestrogen levels drop, I always get the aches and pains, together with palpitations.

Not sure if this helps but hope you soon get some relief.

Rosie63 x

[Itwillpass]

Rosie63 I remember a gp telling me my aching joints were probably from a virus, I’d had them for months was unbelievable what she didn’t know about symptoms I was so frustrated. Babspiglet I agree about the anxiety & lockdown I’ve got so used to not going out I now find going out incredibly stressful. I certainly can’t plan ahead it’s a take each as it comes now. Felt okayish today then 3pm complete wave of exhaustion came over me & real anxiety can’t even put my finger on why having a rest now before I have to start tea 

[sed]

Itwillpass, thanks for your encouragement. I can relate to so much of what you say, particularly the racing heart after quite minor exertion and exercise, walking up stairs and walking for any length of time. I have to incorporate rest stops into my walks now whereas I could charge ahead as recently as March! I’m advised by doctors that this is probably anxiety which I can accept but also firmly believe the demon hormones are playing their part.  I also think that as my problems seemed to start just after lockdown the pandemic has introduced and heightened anxiety symptoms and has made everything worse. Even when I think I’m not particularly anxious, a doctor will attribute my lack of stamina and self-diagnosed ‘heart problem’ (!) to anxiety leaving me floundering around as to the best way to treat my symptoms. I think that the HRT (recommended by one doctor) will help us over the coming weeks/months and we should just be kind to ourselves. I’m so fed up with being constantly fixated on how I’m feeling all the time but this forum is a Godsend and I’m glad I’ve found it! 

It seems as though we are the same....my diagnosis for anxiety came just after lockdown too and GP focused on that instead of my raging hormones.  I agree that Covid has played its part in heightening this symptom of my meno journey and am still holding on that HRT works.  I see it seems to work for hot flushes (the well known symptoms of meno) but haven’t had much proof that this works for anxiety.  Can only but try - good luck

[Itwillpass]

Hi sed, this Covid situation has certainly heightened my anxiety no end, I cannot/do not even watch the tv now if anything Covid related comes on. My gp said she hopes hrt will help my anxiety if it doesn’t might have to try a low dose SSRI 

[Babspiglet]

Thanks Rosie, for the reassurance. Itwillpass and Sed, it seems that we shouldn’t underestimate the negative effect that the pandemic can  have on our emotions and general wellbeing. I often wonder if it had never happened, how would we all be feeling now? External factors like that can wreak havoc on us, even at a sub-conscious level. We’d be feeling a little more relaxed at the very least, I’m sure.  All the natural rhythms of our lives have been disrupted.  I did take an antidepressant for three months recently which really helped but it left me feeling lethargic and all I want is some energy again! I can live with a little bit of anxiety and am so much better than I was in April/May. I think collectively we’re doing everything that we can to deal with our symptoms. I also think that the placebo effect can be powerful enough to suggest that medication is working even before it kicks in properly. I think you have to believe that it will work. We can do no more other than wait in hope and relax and be kind to ourselves. 

[suzysunday]

Babspiglet,. I know just what you mean when you say you are fed up of being constantly fixated on how you feel.  Also, my anxiety has really escalated during this pandemic. So tired all the time.

[Babspiglet]

Agree SuzySunday. We’ll just have to look forward to brighter days ahead-whenever that may be. We’ve had non-stop rain all weekend. If ever there was an excuse to stay in under the duvet it’s today! 

[thegregs52]

Thank you everyone for your comments although its pants to know that it sounds like its another joy of the menopause and it might be like this for a while yet.  Unfortunately I also have Hypothyroidism which probably doesn't help with my hormone levels. 

A lot of you are saying that they felt better once they started to take HRT and I've been using Evorel Conti for nearly 2 years so no I am wondering about trying another patch, anyone got any ideas? 

Would also like to know how you get on with the Menopace Babspiglet 

[sed]

Hello ItWillPass (and other ladies), I raised this in a similar thread recently to which you kindly replied. I’m experiencing exactly the same as you at the moment, waiting for the HRT (Evorel patch and Utrogestan) to kick in and do something magical. I’ll have to wait and see how the continuous progestogen affects me-I know it is itself known to cause grogginess etc. Yesterday I also bought some A.Vogel Menopause Support tablets which have received rave reviews. A lot of the women report increased energy/reduced tiredness on them. The active ingredient is magnesium (good for tiredness and nervous system) which few of us have enough of apparently. The good thing is they can be taken alongside HRT. If I start leaping around with boundless energy I won’t quite know what’s made the difference but I’ll be so happy I won’t mind!  All trial and error at this stage.

Hi Babspiglet

I just wondered if you are still taking the A Vogel supplement?  I have been taking this for a week and even though I had minimal nausea which lasted a short time in the morning, it is lasting now all day and comes with vomiting.  Just trying to trace my steps and the only new thing is these tablets started on Monday 5th? 

Hope you are well x

[Babspiglet]

Hi Sed, I’m so sorry that you’ve been feeling sick and vomiting since starting taking the A.Vogel supplement, that’s miserable. I’ve been ok so far and haven’t suffered adverse effects which is surprising as I have a sensitive stomach. If you’re certain it’s these tablets just stop taking them as there’s no point suffering through taking a herbal supplement. Not sure how long you’ve been on HRT-could it be at all possible it’s a side effect of that still settling? Still, you say you’ve done nothing differently other than start taking the supplement so it probably is that. I, as yet, haven’t felt their benefit as it’s only been just over a week and it has to build up within you first. I haven’t felt any worse though. I’ve just started applying a full patch now so am monitoring that. Try another supplement maybe or call their helpline on side of box? So sorry. Hope you can still have a nice day. x

[Babspiglet]

Sorry Sed-just read your other post giving more context for your nausea. I was prescribed Cyclizine before when I was getting bad nausea taking an antidepressant. It’s highly effective in stopping it within about half an hour. I can thoroughly recommend it. Really hope you can get over it-there’s nothing worse. x