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[Jeepers]

Easy for you clkd, not everyone is able to do that.

Both of my daughters have to go out to work, and distancing is impossible, especially for the eldest. My younger daughter works at the crown courts, and they try, but it's not really happening.


And then of course a the people who work in supermarkets, or have to take the tube, I really feel for them.

Jeepers xx

[Kathleen]

Hello ladies.

Many people can't live in glorious isolation because they have important things to do.


 The WHO recommends that everyone over sixty wear a medical mask in situations where social distancing cannot be managed. When more businesses open even stepping out of each other's way will be more difficult with crowded  pavements and more cars on the road.

Take care everyone.

K.

[CLKD]

That's the sad side effect of a pandemic.  Many have been able to take mortgage holidays which will help as well as deferring car MOTs and annual services.  As well as not driving so won't be spending monies on fuel.

Why have WHO waiting this long?  It doesn't work in reality: in Asia, including China, many wear masks due to smog ....... something we haven't had to contend with since the Clean Air Act.  How many Chinese caught C-19  .

I'm going to be 55 for a long while 

I've been important by staying at home as instructed. 

[CLKD]

Hasty 

[Tc]

How much coronavirus transmission comes from people with no symptoms is still a "big unknown", a World Health Organization scientist has clarified.

Dr Maria Van Kerkhove said on Monday it was "very rare" for asymptomatic people to pass the disease on.

But she has now stressed this observation was based on a relatively small set of studies.

Evidence suggests people with symptoms are most infectious, but the disease can be passed on before they develop. ..........

   

Exactly my point and what my earlier link speaks to.

On the subject of recession , Let's face it. In any recession there will always be those who come out of the doo doo  smelling of Roses.  Same with any adverse situations. There will always be ppl who profit from it.  I feel sorry for workers who have no choice but to go back but dont feel protected and I know many.  It might not be a coincidence that the ones I know are on minimum wage.

My friends who are in management tech jobs are happily working from home and one said her company are not looking to bring ppl back to the office til next year.  Not the case with my sis who works in a call centre. She is a key worker as its pharmaceutical but she has a daily battle to keep herself safe in the office.  And from the shops I've been in today the staff are not protected. No masks no gloves. Too close to each other and customers while stacking shelves and manning self service checkouts. And that's major chains.

[CLKD]

I noted 3 weeks ago that our village shop doesn't have gloves and no masks or screens.  They have been serving customers all year and thus far, touch wood ....... sanitiser on hand for the baskets etc..

Because the Care Sector doesn't pay staff enough in a single care home many carers flit from one to the next to the ...... and those 'on the road' visiting Clients have to change PPE and swab vehicle etc. between each one.

[Taz2]

I'm going back to work for two days a week on the 1st July for the last few weeks of term. I'll be working in a bubble with two keyworker children. My head has been really great at keeping me off the Hub rota so I know she wouldn't ask me unless it as absolutely necessary. I am a bit concerned, obviously, due to being over 65 but the actual "stay away from work" instruction doesn't kick in until aged 70. It will be good to see my school family though. I'm retiring at the end of term after 18 years in the same school. What a weird way to end my time as a TA/Emotional Support/Pastoral Care person.

Taz x

[Tc]

Wow taz.18 years.  In normal pre lockdown times you mustve constantly bumped into ex pupils where ever you went in your town .  

[Ju Ju]

What a strange way to end your career at such a time Taz. I hope it goes well. I would have loved to have returned to teaching temporarily while social distancing is necessary, but it's out of the question as I'm shielding.

Just been talking to my 95 year old dad, who ventured to Sainsbury's during the early shopping hour for the vulnerable, as they were unable to get a delivery slot for several days and had run out of a few essentials. However, he had to queue for quite a long time outside behind much younger people, who were were not in that category. I told him him he should have gone straight to the front of the queue as nobody should or would have expected such an old man to wait, particularly with his bandaged head! But my quiet dad can't break a lifetime of not making a fuss. And he could have asked one of the neighbours to get what he needed. They are all keen to help. Poor man was exhausted. What do l do with him? !

[CLKD]

He probably didn't realise how tired standing would make him feel!  Does he have a trolley thing with a chair ?  If not, would he benefit from one next time?

That's where the Staff lack foresight by not noting the elderly in a queue but are quite prepared to bully DH and me!

[sheila99]

Do you know any of the neighbours ju ju? Perhaps they could ask him if he needs anything when they're going. My Dad would never ask for help either.

[Tc]

Ju ju the "dont make a fuss" attitude is so hard to crack.  Whilst sitting in the communal garden of my parents retirement flats there is one elderly lady who doesnt get it and she walks straight up to ppl puts her hand on their shoulder etc.  Some of the residents tell her of it but my mum says "I cant be nasty she doesnt understand"   I cant get through to mum that it's not being nasty.. 

 My dad said  he has seen them let people who look like they cant stand for long to go to the front. They did it with him once. It depends how on the ball the member of staff is. Those push along things with a seat are a good idea CLKD. .  He probably shouldnt be going out but I dont think my dad should either and in the end he was saying "I'm not going to talk to you if all you do is nag me". So I've given up. But it's such a worry isnt it?  They are adults who dont want to be told what to do by their "children".

I have a dilemma. Mum and dad want to be my buble. (I live alone). I've been isolating but I do go to the shops and chemist  and everyone is too close.  so I dont know whether its a good idea to go into their flat. Although on an emotional level it would do us all good.

Xx

[CLKD]

Tc it is difficult.  R they well?  Will they keep a distance, I can't rely on my Mum to do so.  So won't be visiting as she 'won't be told'. 

[Tc]

Hiya CLKD. 🖐.  From what you've said before I know it's been challenging with your mum. How is she in herself?

Mum and dad touch wood are o.k. he goes for a jog every day.  He is 80 in August. He has always hated being stuck indoors.  He gets the newspapers every day for those in the flats who cant get out.  He reads them all before he dishes them out tho    mum has a heart condition and hasnt been anywhere.  But they played golf together last week. And dad played in a "four ball" (him and 3 others) on Monday.  The 3 others are all his age and one is having cancer treatment.  What can you do? We can't ground them.!!!   He said he keeps himself safe and distanced. He said has no intention of going anywhere that he cant do that. 

Xxx

[Cassie]

Its the young uns that are getting my back up. They just do not seem to realise the severity of the situation. I have been at home for close on 90 days now, only take the dog out for a walk, I buy mostly online or my daughter delivers. Neither OH or myself have underlying conditions that I am aware of, but I made the choice as I want to do whatever I can to prevent being exposed. My daughter keeps telling me to relax and that I am compromising my immunity by stressing, but she will go out to friends and is in and out of the shop and the hair salon and then gets a bit iffy with me if I do  not want her to come for tea.  I have enough personal stress in my life without having to stress, every time shes been, who has she been with, has she unknowingly been exposed, I just do not see why I should have to go through all that stress. Yes I will go out and face the world, we all have to sometime, but when we choose to & how we do so, I feel is our choice and in our time & I have asked her to please respect this and to try and understand my paranoia. Some people take it all in their stride, but I know if I get it, it will hit me hard, I cannot even get a common cold without it ending up in a cough that drags on for weeks on end, usually resulting in me having to take cortisone or antibiotics, so therefore I have made the choice to try my damndest to avoid exposure to people. But the youngsters are going about their lives as normal, which is great, each to their own, and it is sad not to be able to celebrate birthdays and special occasions this year, but to me, its a year @ War and it too  shall pass, we just need to be kind and respectful of everyone as everyone handles these types of crises in their own way.