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[Donnadoobie]

Really glad to hear you good news Jillydoll xx

[sheila99]

Great news jd  Stress stops you sleeping, hopefully you'll get some rest now.

[jillydoll]

Thanx ladies. xxxx

[Salad]

Just caught up with your good news Jillydoll.
So pleased for you all.
Hope you get a decent night's sleep, you deserve it 

[Lanzalover]

Good morning jillydoll

This is such wonderful news hopefully your now well on to having him back home with you.It must be awful not being able to see him.

You have been an absolute star throughout this awful time and you deserve a 🏅 and a    I am full of admiration for you.


I do hope you managed to sleep a little last night.


Sending good well wishes to you both


Love Lanzalover x

[Kmorris]

So pleased to read your news Jilly xx 

[jillydoll]

Aww thanx girls.
I slept from around 12 til 5 this morning, dozed back off, then awake since 7 .
So not bad.
I am tired, in fact I'm knackered. But as long as everything's going the way it should be, I dont care. I can always catch up on sleep at different times.
It has been stressful not being able to go see him, but we text, and rang him, so that was ok.
Thanx for your lovely messages ladies. Means a lot to me. xx
Take care everyone!

[littleminnie]

So pleased JD, he?ll soon be home and things can get back to ?normal?.
Can you FaceTime? Then you can at least see him.
LM xx

[Hurdity]

Hi Jillydoll - just catching up on here - so pleased to read that your husband is on the mend! You must be so relieved and looking forward to having him home soon. However more than ever he must be protected from Covid-19 since if he hasn't had it he could still be susceptible....hope you get some sleep tonight! All the best.

Hurdity x

[Hurdity]

Public Health England isn't fit for purpose  this is when we find out how many layers the NHS actually pays!

Many could be cut ............

Can you elaborate? Public Health England is not part of NHS but is a Government organisation.

The chief executive of NHS England was being praised on the news yesterday, surely he's more to blame for shortages in PPE and not the various MPs I've seen attacked ?

....because of years of underfunding so MPs (maybe not the current ones?) and particualr recent govern,ments ar most definitely to blame, and especially for ignoring their own pandemic simulation exercises which highlighted the need for more preparedness, which of course requires investment. That does not happen under years of Tory Governments.

Hurdity x

[CLKD]

The NHS has been under-funded and under-staffed since the 1970s under successive governments.  Regardless of colour.  I've been involved with the NHS as a patient, as a child watching my Dad being treated, as an NHS worker ........ cut backs, cut backs, cut backs; then someone decided that 'care in the community' would cut NHS 'costs'.   

Charle Moore of the Telegraph ......... can't post links.  I didn't suggest that Public Health England is part of the NHS 

[Hurdity]

It is so reassuring to read such clear-headed, logical and sensible posts about corona here. Thank you. I am so tired of the hysteria, skewed statistics and useless politicians in this horrific time and it seems that a fair few of you on here are too.

I do not think that anyone is putting these deaths into context. How much higher is the death rate to normal? How many people are dying due to not getting adequate treatment for other conditions? Is the suicide/abuse/crime rate going up and, if so, how many lives are being lost due to this? Are lockdown measures helping in the short term and long term?

I don't know. I wish I could believe the media but I am not sure I do. I know that this is a horrendous situation but I have two friends that work in hospitals and they say that it is extremely quiet. They are both very worried that people are not receiving adequate care for other conditions.

I appreciate the information about deaths from other flu strains. Thank you whoever posted those.

You can find information about excess deaths due to coronavirus on the website of the Office For National Statistics. These are published weekly but there is a two week lag so the latest data refer to the week ending march 27th when the numbers  of deaths had yet to soar as it has frighteningly done recently: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending27march2020

These data will include deaths where Covid-19 has been put as cuase of death on the death certificate but may not have been confirmed by testing ( this was discussed recently on another thread).

Also there are plenty of websites that provide the data so one can bypass the media. The Department of Health and Social Care provides daily figures on new tested cases, and also deaths from CV-19 in hopsital. Numerous indivudals in twitter also provided lots of graphs of various stats to look at.

I agree and I think it has been ackonwledged that it is shocking that as a product of this crisis there will be indirect deaths due to the focusing of the health service on the immediate situation re CV-19.

Hurdity x

[Foxylady]

Hi all, Jillydoll that is fantastic news re OH on the mend! So delighted for you all as it must have been a horrendous time for you. Make sure you do catch upon your sleep and take time to just relax (easier said than done). Wish him a speedy discharge from hospital and recovery at home. xx

[CLKD]

Hopefully Mr jillydoll has improved over night 

[CLKD]

GROUNDHOG - do you have a garden?  This doesn't mean stay indoors despite what the press and news readers keep banging at us!

How R U coping being together ? 

good expression stellajane - pulling together against governments who have NO IDEA - different specialities have to be organised against the chaos caused by those who have never seen an RTA arrive at A&E ........... how Teams actually work for the benefit of patients