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Mojo-swaptop

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Re: Feeling worse on HRT
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2025, 10:43:35 AM »

I think both our husbands must deserve a sainthood haha 😂

Oh the PMS! I used to have it before but nowhere near as bad has it has been recently. I absolutely blew up last week about something minor and it was like I was looking at myself thinking what the heck am I doing. It doesn't feel like me at all. I think that is the worse thing about all this, not feeling like yourself anymore more.

Mojo-swaptop x
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Clovie

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Re: Feeling worse on HRT
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2025, 10:46:42 AM »

I think both our husbands must deserve a sainthood haha 😂

Oh the PMS! I used to have it before but nowhere near as bad has it has been recently. I absolutely blew up last week about something minor and it was like I was looking at myself thinking what the heck am I doing. It doesn't feel like me at all. I think that is the worse thing about all this, not feeling like yourself anymore more.

Mojo-swaptop x

I know  :'(  It's awful. I feel the same.
Sending you big piles of support  xx  :foryou:
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Mojo-swaptop

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Re: Feeling worse on HRT
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2025, 11:11:20 AM »

Thank you Clovie, sending you huge hugs and support too  :thankyou:

Mojo-swaptop x
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flo69

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Re: Feeling worse on HRT
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2025, 09:54:15 AM »

I found your post interesting Flo.

i too have been 'lied to' by my GP, you know, the people we are supposed to trust.

my surgery , (they said the whole of my NHS area but I do not believe them) stopped prescribing utrogestan because it was apparently  SOOOOO dangerous for women, even though I explained it was the only progesterone I could tolerate because of progesterone intolerance to synthetic progesterones, and was continuing to be prescribed elsewhere they stuck to their script.
When we dared to ask, given that we had seen that it was so much more expensive than cheap harsh synthetic progesterones, if it was down to cost, we got NO NO NO, It's because it's DANGEROUS!!! :o   This was only a couple of years ago as well, meanwhile everyone else in nearby areas, all over Scotland were continuing to be prescribed it, let alone the rest of the UK and many parts of the rest of the entire WORLD.
Anyway they cut me off cold turkey. Because they wouldn't prescribe utrogestan they cut my estrogel too.
I had to buy it online at my own cost.
Shocking.

Because we complained to the practice manager about this I feel my surgery dislikes me now, paranoid? maybe, but that is how I am now made to feel. With good reason.
I have an awful relationship with my own GP surgery, just for trying to advocate for myself.

I am still having regular predictable periods and they have never stopped, but because I'm 61 - they flat out do not believe me, even though a scan 2 years ago proved it, that I was menstruating, and nothing has changed since still having periods that are getting lighter and hopefully moving towards finishing.
 Meanwhile, I am being treated as a woman with post menopausal bleeding! Being sent for scans etc which I feel may not be necessary.

Consequently, I have zero trust or faith in my GP surgery :(
Isn't it strange the way they treat utrogestan? I also complained to the practice manager, that was how I had the GP admit to saying she couldn't prescribe it, when she knew she could (we had had a whole row about it previously) and came off with the regrettable line that women don't understand the dangers as a justification. When she said that, I didn't reply at first, partly shock, partly to let her words fall on silence so she'd hear herself.

Anyway, the same GP told me Evorel Conti doesn't make women feel worse, that's not what women were telling her. I felt like saying I was a person, not one in a herd of theoretical women, EC definitely made me feel nervous, jittery, unhappy, sleepless to name a few.
That was a problem with Utrogestan too, even before it made me depressed, it made me insomniac and I had the worst indigestion. Without HRT I sleep soundly every night, I couldn't sleep when I was peri, but I was only allowed HRT over a year into menopause, as per the instruction leaflets. Since menopause I've slept like a baby, with or without HRT.

Unfortunately this month I lost my precious strip of tibolone and they will not give it out early, so I've been without tibolone for four or five days now and tbh I feel absolutely the same as I would with it. I think it might be slower to act and slower to fade, I've only until next week to wait for the refill. If I run out of my opiate medicine, I can get that early, but not anything to do with "women's medicine", no, that's far too dangerous to be on the loose!

I feel for you, not being believed strips you of your individuality, you aren't alone, I've seen many here saying the same that they are over 60 and still getting regular bleeds and not being properly believed. GPs like to know the answers, when they don't they shouldn't just make up stuff, but that expectation of an answer is too much for some and maybe it becomes a habit to deny patients who don't meet their expectations.
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CLKD

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Re: Feeling worse on HRT
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2025, 11:46:59 AM »

Again, a referral to a dedicated menopause clinic should be arranged. 

Why won't medics listen to their patients  >:(.  It's almost as though they open a book and if it's writ large, it's 2 B believed!




Years ago I walked out of 2 different therapy sessions having been told by 1 that "U must have thoughts B4 a panic attack" - well, nope.  The other I could tell her which page she was reading from as she talked about X, Y, Z that would help me!

 
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Clovie

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Re: Feeling worse on HRT
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2025, 07:59:07 AM »

I found your post interesting Flo.

i too have been 'lied to' by my GP, you know, the people we are supposed to trust.

my surgery , (they said the whole of my NHS area but I do not believe them) stopped prescribing utrogestan because it was apparently  SOOOOO dangerous for women, even though I explained it was the only progesterone I could tolerate because of progesterone intolerance to synthetic progesterones, and was continuing to be prescribed elsewhere they stuck to their script.
When we dared to ask, given that we had seen that it was so much more expensive than cheap harsh synthetic progesterones, if it was down to cost, we got NO NO NO, It's because it's DANGEROUS!!! :o   This was only a couple of years ago as well, meanwhile everyone else in nearby areas, all over Scotland were continuing to be prescribed it, let alone the rest of the UK and many parts of the rest of the entire WORLD.
Anyway they cut me off cold turkey. Because they wouldn't prescribe utrogestan they cut my estrogel too.
I had to buy it online at my own cost.
Shocking.

Because we complained to the practice manager about this I feel my surgery dislikes me now, paranoid? maybe, but that is how I am now made to feel. With good reason.
I have an awful relationship with my own GP surgery, just for trying to advocate for myself.

I am still having regular predictable periods and they have never stopped, but because I'm 61 - they flat out do not believe me, even though a scan 2 years ago proved it, that I was menstruating, and nothing has changed since still having periods that are getting lighter and hopefully moving towards finishing.
 Meanwhile, I am being treated as a woman with post menopausal bleeding! Being sent for scans etc which I feel may not be necessary.

Consequently, I have zero trust or faith in my GP surgery :(
Isn't it strange the way they treat utrogestan? I also complained to the practice manager, that was how I had the GP admit to saying she couldn't prescribe it, when she knew she could (we had had a whole row about it previously) and came off with the regrettable line that women don't understand the dangers as a justification. When she said that, I didn't reply at first, partly shock, partly to let her words fall on silence so she'd hear herself.

Anyway, the same GP told me Evorel Conti doesn't make women feel worse, that's not what women were telling her. I felt like saying I was a person, not one in a herd of theoretical women, EC definitely made me feel nervous, jittery, unhappy, sleepless to name a few.
That was a problem with Utrogestan too, even before it made me depressed, it made me insomniac and I had the worst indigestion. Without HRT I sleep soundly every night, I couldn't sleep when I was peri, but I was only allowed HRT over a year into menopause, as per the instruction leaflets. Since menopause I've slept like a baby, with or without HRT.

Unfortunately this month I lost my precious strip of tibolone and they will not give it out early, so I've been without tibolone for four or five days now and tbh I feel absolutely the same as I would with it. I think it might be slower to act and slower to fade, I've only until next week to wait for the refill. If I run out of my opiate medicine, I can get that early, but not anything to do with "women's medicine", no, that's far too dangerous to be on the loose!

I feel for you, not being believed strips you of your individuality, you aren't alone, I've seen many here saying the same that they are over 60 and still getting regular bleeds and not being properly believed. GPs like to know the answers, when they don't they shouldn't just make up stuff, but that expectation of an answer is too much for some and maybe it becomes a habit to deny patients who don't meet their expectations.

Thank you Flo.
I agree with all you say.
No doubt my complaint to Practice manager will just result in all closing ranks.
I feel its pointless but then again if NO-ONE complains everything stays the same, for everyone going forwards! 

Sorry you lost your strip of Tibolone :( , yes it must be a delayed effect? And yes more than daft that you can reorder opiates at the drop of a hat yet not that easy for bloomin' HRT!!  >:( xx

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