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[Kathleen]

Hello again ladies

As I understand it blood pressure lowering tablets treat the effects  but not the cause, meaning the numbers come down but whatever is responsible for the high BP is continuing.

Shadyglade -  I will read your links later as they do look interesting and will take my mind off my own health problems atm lol.

Wishing you well ladies.

K.

[Sparrow]

Hello again ladies

As I understand it blood pressure lowering tablets treat the effects  but not the cause, meaning the numbers come down but whatever is responsible for the high BP is continuing.

Shadyglade -  I will read your links later as they do look interesting and will take my mind off my own health problems atm lol.

Wishing you well ladies.

K.

Hi Kathleen, 

What you have said is exactly Dr. Kendricks point in his second piece.

The simple fact is that when blood pressure is raised, it is raised for a reason. The reason is an underlying ‘disease'. And just because you cannot find it, does not mean that it doesn't' exist.

Lowering the blood pressure will certainly get rid of an annoyingly high measurement, but it cannot (unless by complete coincidence), have any impact on the underlying disease…… the thing causing you to die. So, unless it is startlingly high, what good can lowering blood pressure actually do?

The answer my friend, is not blowing in the wind. The answer is ‘no good at all.'

[Sparrow]

Look into magnesium for blood pressure control Elky.

Also mentioned by Dr Kendrick.

[ElkWarning]

Hey Birdy, you recommended this a while ago, together with more info, and I got some organic magnesium from Neal's Yard and take that.

Re: the medication thing, well, my BP was 220 / 120, so yes, catastrophically high.  Various readings taken over a two week period (one by a doctor, one by an occupational health nurse and one by a practice nurse).  I also had access to the medical BP machine at work and I bought a cheapy for home.  So I don't think I fall into the category of 'modestly high blood pressure' ... With regard to the sudden death, it was the myocardial infarction they were worried about with me and left ventricular hypertrophy, as both of those are genetic and run heavily in my family.  One of the articles you link to does indeed say BP lowering medication is helpful for those conditions.

But you're right, there's something underlying it and I would say it's three things:  pushing myself (or being pushed) too hard, not taking out enough time for self care (so I was surviving on caffeine during the day and alcohol at night, too little sleep, not enough exercise, etc) <<< both of these are basically stressors, and I think the menopause hasn't helped.

So today's result was that the Amlopidine was withdrawn immediately, too many side effects, not enough result.  Now I have a big mark on my records saying 'Don't ever give this woman a calcium blocker again'.  Well, that's a step forward.  We know what doesn't work.  We decided to go with a different ACE inhibitor, because I had been so nearly there with the Ramipril, it was the increase in dose, chasing the 'perfect' 130 / 80 that knocked it sideways.  We'd be happy to get back to where we were in June.  New drug = Lisinopril.  The nurse is hoping that because it's slightly different my body won't just revert to the coughing, but we'll see.  Blood test in two weeks to check kidney function, again.  Nurse the week after.  28 x 2mg of Diazepam in case a 'valium holiday' would help.  I know what I'm doing with the Diazepam.  I've taken much higher doses before, but have been stabilised on very low doses for the last 10 years knowing that I can just press the 'stop the world I want to get off' button.  Not ideal but it works for me.

Also popped into the herbalist and got some more damiana and lime flower for tea.

Also the grocers so I can make white wine lentils with roasted tomatoes and broccoli and vegan creme fraiche for dinner - we have tons of tomatoes from the allotment, so ...

Big love. x