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[donnacrichton]

I did for a long time but it only happens very occasionally now so keep positive x

[suzysunday]

No spasms through my body.  Had a tense night, feel like weeing but don't think it's uti still.  Probably this horrible atrophy.  Don't let people say you over think stuff cos when your body aggravates you and you don't know why or how to stop it you search for answers.

[CLKD]

Take a pain relief?  It eases the feelings that I need to wee ..........  . 

[suzysunday]

Went to a walk in health centre as this uti keeps lingering.   Got some antibiotics again, the trimethoprim that I've had before, so hope this will clear it finally.  The other antibiotics,  nitrofurantoin, we're horrible.  I am so fed up of feeling poorly.

[CLKD]

You should not have been given an Anti-biotic without a sample being sent to a Lab..  If you need one in future for something serious, it may not work!  Did they not recommend pain-relief?  Is that the AB that you take for 3 days?

Do you plan to wait the 2 weeks B4 the appt., or get some appropriate treatment to ease symptoms?  There doesn't seem to be much joined up thinking in the NHS these days  which causes distress and is wasting NHS time.  You don't have to undergo any treatment or investigations if you don't wish, it is your body.  But you do need a GP who understands what might be causing your discomfort - maybe a Practice Nurse? 

Treatment for vaginal atrophy will ease most 'need to pee often' symptoms.  Have you read the other threads about bladders etc.?  Sorry can't remember the title, will bump it for you when I do.

[suzysunday]

The  previous samples were sent off and did  show some red cells  I think she said. There was blood in  the  urine when it first started 2 weeks ago and it's never gone completely, so it must be a uti. Yes they are for 3 days.  Yes I will contact gp tomorrow.  I have been using shop bought lube/moisturiser and still getting green discharge with ovestin. 

[CLKD]

Blood does not always equate to infection!  Blood in the urine can be caused when small cells drop from the vaginal walls when atrophy begins.  Appropriate treatment usually eases those symptoms which are interconnected.  Who ever designed women 'this way' needs soaking with icy water!

How do you feel this morning?     Birdy.

[suzysunday]

Thanks clkd, you are right about serious design faults!! Birdy, yes I have atrophy, diagnosed over 2 years ago, but off all hrt till this gynaecologist gets what he wants. Spoke to gp but have to make do with the shop bought local moisturiser until gynae says ok.  See him in 2 weeks today can't wait for it to be over.

[EnglishRose]

Hi there!
I believe you have symptoms of vaginal atrophy. I have it and I get surges of what feels like sexual stimulation without the mental involvement if you know what I mean. I also get burning, spasms, escaping air bubbles and pain on my right deep inside my V.
There is an excellent vaginal atrophy Facebook group you might want to join for more info! It's run by Jane Lewis who just published the excellent book My Menopausal Vagina.
VA is horribly distressing. I use Vagifem, ovestin and bio identical HRT. Doctors know jack shit about the condition. Sorry to be so blunt, but GUM clinic staff tend to be far more knowledgeable. X

Oh I am soooo confused! So torn.

I have joined a PGAD group who are convinced I am in their camp (I don't want to be)
I have also joined a Menopause group who some ladies can relate to my symptoms most cant or wont
And it looks like I will be joining a VA group now.
The more I pull away from the PGDA group the less anxious and stressed and depressed I feel. EACH and EVERY single woman (like you) who responds no matter HOW uncomfortable it feels is helping not only me but countless other women confused and embarrassed by this sensation.

Yes, I do have escaping air bubbles but usually just before my period, had that for a few years now and I knew this was linked to the thinning walls of my vagina. My vagina is not dry but the discharge is watery at best and has been for years used to always be healthy and plentiful.  I pee about 20 times a day always told myself I had a small bladder.!!!
I have experienced a false urgency to urinate for 3 long hours that kept me awake and i recall other nights keep needing to pee tiny amounts and it kept me awake.
No matter how much I peed (or how little) I came off that toilet and felt the need to pee even though I know it was not real.
I get stabbing pains in my cervix (again before my period) assumed instead of cramps the pain now went to my cervix,
Bearing in mind my periods are 2 weeks apart now.
These new sensations are sometimes but not often accompanied with burning feeling but also a sensation of sensitivity upper buttocks and coxis area

My STUPID doctor told me to come off the progesterone altogether and put me on Tibolone which should only be prescribed to POST MENO women and its a steroid that forces the body to create its own Progesterone, Oestrogen and Androgen? Took it for 3 nights and got less and less sleep each night. I am not taking it anymore. I asked her "Has anyone else approached you with these symptoms" and she shrugged and said "no" which is not what I wanted to hear. She took some info I printed off for her about PGAD and said she had heard of it but doesn't know how to treat it so will make some phone calls to gynos. Why couldn't she just refer me?

I wrote to her over the weekend begging her to provide pain relief or nerve blocker as the sensations are having a truly devastating effect on my mental health and was told by the practice manager via email that she does not have time to read emails and doesn't know much about this condition so I have to go back in the morning in open surgery;

 I am so desperate to know its not that horrible disorder PGAD but the people who are in that group kind of want you to have it if that makes sense. They do tell me if may go of its own accord and that many members have joined and vanished leaving us to assume their problem went.

[Ladybt28]

Hi roseenglish - to be honest I really think you should continue to give the Tiblone a go. A few days will not help at all.  It needs at least a fortnight and maybe 3 weeks to give any indication of how it may help you.  In terms of being post meno - I was prescribed it in the cross over period when they didn't know if I was still peri or post as I had been on hrt since age 47, it was difficult to tell.  Too much progesterone is not good for the body.  I know you are feeling really weird right now but you do need to give yourself time to work out what is actually going on otherwise it's hard to describe to the professionals and it is hard to work out what is actually the right course of action.  I completely understand whilst all this is going on you just want it to stop but it's not going to unless you can work out what is happening and take the appropriate action.  I have had to take hrt for 3 months when I have thought it possibly wasn't the right thing but at least it has allowed me to keep a diary and then I have been able to work out from here and with the doctors what IS the right thing or got closer too it.  Chin up keep going, things will settle but the answers don't come quick 

[SueLW]

Why didn't your doctor give you some oestrogen?  Your levels were very low and you have over-stuffed all your receptors with progesterone.  You surely need some oestrogen.

As to the groups with other conditions, I have noticed that they always bend new members or symptoms to fit their group profile.  Everything is the problem of B12 deficiency to the B12 group.  Or it's all the result of low vitamin D to the vitamin D group.  In the thyroid group I do still follow, every symptom is thyroid, related to inadequate medication.  But I can see that half of the symptoms of menopause overlap hypothyroidism in a big way.  But if I suggest this on that group I will be ignored or argued with.  On this group quite a lot of people could well be hypothyroid, but it doesn't get taken seriously and people are happy to just have a TSH blood test by a clueless GP and be told their thyroid is "fine", when a bit of research will show up problems.

I drove myself nearly mad a few years ago by joining too many FB groups for hypothyroidism and the different forms of treatment.  They are all too evangelical about their own "thing".   I felt immediately better when I left all but 1 milder group and I've never felt that stressed since.  If your genital area is drying out through lack of oestrogen it could well be aggravating the nerves to give you horrible symptoms.  Don't concentrate on the unusual, focus on what you know to be happing, i.e. you are in peri-menopause and your oestrogen levels were virtually non-existent.

I've had periods of bladder problems.  Desperately wanting to pee, bladder hard as a rock, impossible to actually pee more than a dribble.  No infection.  The best relief I got for that was to go out into the garden and crouch down and have a pee in nature.  The position of the crouch is much more conducive to passing water properly.  I have a big garden full of trees and not overlooked.  But I'm sure you can find a quiet spot, after dark if necessary. It worked.

[EnglishRose]

Hi roseenglish - to be honest I really think you should continue to give the Tiblone a go. A few days will not help at all.  It needs at least a fortnight and maybe 3 weeks to give any indication of how it may help you.  In terms of being post meno - I was prescribed it in the cross over period when they didn't know if I was still peri or post as I had been on hrt since age 47, it was difficult to tell.  Too much progesterone is not good for the body.  I know you are feeling really weird right now but you do need to give yourself time to work out what is actually going on otherwise it's hard to describe to the professionals and it is hard to work out what is actually the right course of action.  I completely understand whilst all this is going on you just want it to stop but it's not going to unless you can work out what is happening and take the appropriate action.  I have had to take hrt for 3 months when I have thought it possibly wasn't the right thing but at least it has allowed me to keep a diary and then I have been able to work out from here and with the doctors what IS the right thing or got closer too it.  Chin up keep going, things will settle but the answers don't come quick 

I know.

Okay here's the thing. Only THIS morning I was in the deepest despair. SOOO tuned into my vag waiting for the next sensation or asking myself '"Is it there?" It became an obsession and I KNEW I was going to MAKE it happen from obsessing about it...I was spiralling

Last night I had 5 hours broken sleep which I blamed the new HRT on and was aroused and terrified as normally sleep is my escape from this symptom in the 1 week I have had it. I was in a very dark place this morning convinced now I would be anxious and awake every night. I even telephoned MIND but of course what can they say? I was just totally defeated and afraid and had no hope no future that I wanted any part of. The weekend was bad I spent it led in bed curtains closed just on my tablet researching, crying, desperate to find others that had what I have that did NOT have that dreaded PGAD

Then around 3pm something just clicked. My perspective changed and my mood lifted, just like that. I looked online and booked a private appointment with a gynaecologist local to me. I have also have telephone appt with a Menopause Specialist Nurse tomorrow.
I decided the only thing i know for SURE is I am peri menopause and fast approaching menopause. What ever my symptoms are they are linked to hormones.

Then I went to the toilet and I had bleed and I had that:  "ah ha!" moment. My inability to rationalise this symptom for the last 7 days was down to a severe case of PMS. I never really know when I am due on these days I go off my symptoms and this period has been VERY intense.

The last two periods I had stomach cramps from bowels and the runs (never had that in my life) This period I had the most intense hunger so annoying my stomach was constantly churning and twisting for food despite my anxiety. It was so annoying as I did not want to eat anything at all but my stomach would not settle without constant food. I was having hot flushes, breasts were especially achy, I had spots, it was like PMS x 10 PLUS I had proper stomach cramps which I have not had for years either. The insomnia I have had last night is also a very old PMS symptom I have not had for 3 ears.

I USED to have a feeling of sexual desire before my period many many years ago and actually having a sexy dream was a sure sign I was due on my period. This happened last night for the first time in 2 years but I did not connect the dots. I just assumed it was all part of these new urges/feelings and it added to the anxiety.

I have been spotting for 2 weeks on and off but was not sure I was due on a period until I saw the blood and it was a huge relief. I have got cramps, my skin around my bottom and vagina feels like its sunburnt and I am sore inside my cervix area like cramps bit vaginal (thats a peri menopause PMS symptom I never used to have before hitting 40) and I am STILL staving hungry despite eating all day.

I climbed on my partners lap and I wanted sex so did he but we're both so afraid of aggravating anything ! How sad is that? I have self diagnosed myself to treat my symptoms to be PGAD when I may just be having a strong sexual desire after so many years. I was horny all night eating dinner but I did not get upset or stress out about it even as I held my puppy because it's NOW it feels like my body trying to tell me to make love before the ovaries shut down. NOW it feels like I remember it. What I had prior was like spasms or twinges little niggles but they did not want me to make love at all. Where as now I feel naturally horny like I used to when me and my partner first got together.
Maybe the odd sensations were a build up to this (?) After so many years of being closed down and totally void of action maybe it was "jump starting" me?

I dont know. Its a theory. Today in terms of those specific symptoms has been the best day since it started. I have just felt naturally aroused after holding my partner and being caressed. It passed in 15 minutes after we got on with dinner.

I HOPE its just one of those strange meno symptoms that will pass. I dont mind having a high libido for the first time in my life but I needed to know if what I was feeling was actually just that or something more sinister. Time will tell. xx

[EnglishRose]

Why didn't your doctor give you some oestrogen?  Your levels were very low and you have over-stuffed all your receptors with progesterone.  You surely need some oestrogen.

As to the groups with other conditions, I have noticed that they always bend new members or symptoms to fit their group profile.  Everything is the problem of B12 deficiency to the B12 group.  Or it's all the result of low vitamin D to the vitamin D group.  In the thyroid group I do still follow, every symptom is thyroid, related to inadequate medication.  But I can see that half of the symptoms of menopause overlap hypothyroidism in a big way.  But if I suggest this on that group I will be ignored or argued with.  On this group quite a lot of people could well be hypothyroid, but it doesn't get taken seriously and people are happy to just have a TSH blood test by a clueless GP and be told their thyroid is "fine", when a bit of research will show up problems.

I drove myself nearly mad a few years ago by joining too many FB groups for hypothyroidism and the different forms of treatment.  They are all too evangelical about their own "thing".   I felt immediately better when I left all but 1 milder group and I've never felt that stressed since.  If your genital area is drying out through lack of oestrogen it could well be aggravating the nerves to give you horrible symptoms.  Don't concentrate on the unusual, focus on what you know to be happing, i.e. you are in peri-menopause and your oestrogen levels were virtually non-existent.

I've had periods of bladder problems.  Desperately wanting to pee, bladder hard as a rock, impossible to actually pee more than a dribble.  No infection.  The best relief I got for that was to go out into the garden and crouch down and have a pee in nature.  The position of the crouch is much more conducive to passing water properly.  I have a big garden full of trees and not overlooked.  But I'm sure you can find a quiet spot, after dark if necessary. It worked.

I am seeing a private gyno on Thursday and have a telephone consultation with a meno nurse tomorrow.

I am unsure whether I am feeling the sex surge I am on my period now my mood is stable and I feel like I want to make love. Not because of annoying twinges but because I just feel more sexual.
I have no idea if the sensations that I have had are all part of this. I like to think its my ovaries pushing me biologically to make love and procreate before they cease to work. Time will tell xxx

[NorthArm]

Hi roseenglish

Are you still taking the tibolone and reducing the progesterone?

[suzysunday]

Good you are seeing a gynae
 Hope it goes well.