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[dazned]

Yes if only ! One pill fixes all,we can but dream !

[CLKD]

My GP treats depression first, regardless - in fact it's the Practice Protocol, because many people get to the Surgery in a desperate state - once the depression/anxiety have eased, HRT is discussed with the Practice Nurses. This is after years of hands-on as it were, talking with ladies and giving them options as they begin to feel better.  Often if they are not having other menopause symptoms, they don't need HRT.

It really can be Trial and Error.    A friend of mine went onto HRT for hot flushes at an early age, as she was front of house in her job and what ever she was prescribed really helped: it did nothing for the depression she suffered 3 years later ........

One fix sadly doesn't suit all 

[Butterfly22]

You would think if a woman was menopausal they would treat with hrt then if still depressed add the AD's.
I can't remember what I started first as 17 years ago I think it was hrt bug then again I'm not a normal cause so to speak!
I could do with those pills your mums on 😀Xxx

[CLKD]

Surely that is dependant on what the lady presents with?  If she complains of depression/anxiety then a GP will treat appropriately.


For me, my pre-menstrual depression is totally different to the organic depression that hit me, requiring treatment.  ......... I also have a genetic pre-disposition to depression so it was essential that those symptoms were sorted.  B4 each bleed: even if a period wasn't due: I would weep for hours ....... sure as eggs is eggs, the bleed would start in the early hours.  Organic depression however wasn't related to my cycle at all.  I think because I was already on ADs by the time peri arrived, I got away with those symptoms. 

It can be that HRT might not help, so many weeks may be lost with the patient becoming more and more depressed.  Which is why it is so difficult to decide which might suit who at any point.  I was menopausal but didn't require HRT other than for VA  .

I wonder whether there have been any discussions with ladies after they get through menopause and are clearer of mind, exactly which was more appropriate for them. 

[Butterfly22]

Ah that's awful you were so bad luckily you got help, it would be interesting to no ladies stories on the oth side though. My doctor has said in the past it's hard to no what's what as depression,menopause and ME have a lot of similar symptoms. xxx

[CLKD]

It was awful.  But I have to also remember that in the 1st World we have access to medication.

[Hurdity]

The OP fortunately has not been complaining of depression so what is pertinent here is that the doc did not pursue the avenue (of available HRT types) properly and gave her a treatment contrary to current protocols before exploring all the options.

(As an aside it may be that your practice is out of date CLKD although not really relevant to this particular query).

tp - I hope you've found the information useful? Do let us know the outcome!

Hurdity  x

[CLKD]

You will never know Hurdity ........... but with my knowledge of the GPs/Staff at my Surgery, I know that 'being out of date' is unlikely to be true.  I don't see how it might be 'out of date' 

[tp1969]

Thanks for all the advice, it's helps to not think I am just a neurotic sweaty mess!
Hurdity I am 48yrs old, longest time I have gone without a period was 7mths but that was before started trying hrt, so would have been nearly 4 yrs ago😢. At the moment I have started taking the elleste duet 1mg prescription and I am going to log everything for the next two months. The hot flushes were too much to cope with, 3-4 an hour, they are easing slightly with the hrt. I am going to do my homework thanks to all the information on here and go to either female g.p or possibly well woman clinic, armed with as much info as I can.

[CLKD]

(As an aside it may be that your practice is out of date CLKD although not really relevant to this particular query).



I never type anything that isn't relevant ...........  nor would I 

[Butterfly22]

TP I found keeping a diary was so helpful, I've tried so many hrt etc I can look back and see what one caused/helped what symptom.
It's also good to no your not on your own (I'm another sweaty mess ATM) so keep us updated.
A lot of ladies have to try a few before they find one which helps so keep notes and dates ext.
Xxx

[Yammy1]

Im Sorry but I REALLY don't understand all the snipes and bickering, some people prefer hrt, some prefer ads, and some prefer both. Either way surely the most important result is the well being of the person involved. If ads make you feel normal and able to cope then take them. If hrt works take it, if a combination of both work then blooming take them. But please stop with the I'm right your wrong comments, it's not helpful at all. 

[Hurdity]

Thanks for all the advice, it's helps to not think I am just a neurotic sweaty mess!
Hurdity I am 48yrs old, longest time I have gone without a period was 7mths but that was before started trying hrt, so would have been nearly 4 yrs ago😢. At the moment I have started taking the elleste duet 1mg prescription and I am going to log everything for the next two months. The hot flushes were too much to cope with, 3-4 an hour, they are easing slightly with the hrt. I am going to do my homework thanks to all the information on here and go to either female g.p or possibly well woman clinic, armed with as much info as I can.

tp - I do hope the HRT works for you. If you have had that long without a period then you could well be quite advanced along the road - even post-menopause so your natural oestrogen levels could be quite low by now. There may be some side effects but go with it if you can. Please remember the comments about migraine and oral HRT - you will be able to try others if this one doesn't work or you find the side effects outweigh the benefit after giving it your best shot - as you will benefit from taking HRT at least for another 3 or 4 years - even if you decide to stop after this.

All the best and keep us posted

Hurdity x

[Snoooze]

Im Sorry but I REALLY don't understand all the snipes and bickering, some people prefer hrt, some prefer ads, and some prefer both. Either way surely the most important result is the well being of the person involved. If ads make you feel normal and able to cope then take them. If hrt works take it, if a combination of both work then blooming take them. But please stop with the I'm right your wrong comments, it's not helpful at all. 

I agree. I've looked up some things on here and it's amazing how many times you see arguments within a thread and people trying to gain one upmanship and obviously some WUM's involved also. It put me off a bit. It seems silly that we're all of an age yet some are acting like school kids.

[Yammy1]

Glad it's not just me snoooze, very disheartening when the bickering starts. Excuse my ignorance but what is WUM'S