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Peroxideblader

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Utrogestan taken anally
« on: September 03, 2017, 11:01:27 AM »

Hello sorry for the headline it sounded awful but I'm seeing gp Wednesday to try oestrogel utrogestan next period and the NHS dose for peri is 200mg days 15 to 26 but seeing as I had very bad sude effects on femoston on just the oestrogen I'm thinking the progesterone will be bad too so I'm trying to eliminate the side effects and you all seem to suggest not taking it orally .  However as I have an overactive bladder for over 30  years the vaginal route is risking it as I know it's higher than my urethra but weeing every hour through the night will push the pill down and maybe out so I wondered if anyone has taken it anally and how they found it success wise. Sorry to discuss bums on a Sunday lol ..
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Taz2

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Re: Utrogestan taken anally
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2017, 11:57:51 AM »

I wouldn't have thought that it would be a problem - reading on the fertility forums it is ok to use them vaginally or rectally. My problem would be wanting to have a bowel movement straight after - just the thought of knowing I couldn't go for an hour and a half-ish would be enough to make me want to!

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Peroxideblader

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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2017, 01:30:16 PM »

I know what you mean but sadly my bowel stopped working as it should 34 years ago so I have to use glycerin suppositories to go to the loo anyway and only in the morning so I'd take mine at night. Thank you
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Mary G

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Re: Utrogestan taken anally
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2017, 01:35:32 PM »

I can't see any reason not to do it that way and if you do it last thing at night, you are not likely to need a bowel movement until the next day.

If you are progesterone intolerant, I would think twice about taking 200mg Utrogestan for 12 days each month because you might have side effects and I doubt you will need that high a dose anyway.  This is only my personal opinion from my own experience (I take less than half that amount) and yes, I know it is against the NHS guidelines but I think the progesterone part of HRT is being way over-prescribed for most women and has been designed as a catch all for the worse case scenario because the NHS don't offer regular ultrasound scans.  This is a much debated subject on here.

Obviously for those who love it or don't have any side effects it is not a problem but if you are progesterone intolerant or even just experience low mood it can be a deal breaker - side effects from progesterone are the main reason for women ditching HRT. 

I would halve the dose to 100mg if I were you.
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Maryjane

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Re: Utrogestan taken anally
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2017, 01:46:55 PM »

My husband suggested the other night I should do this .

Can't see there being any difference between vaginal and anal , as like you vaginally irritates my bladder and orally makes me so weak and watery for a couple of hours almost zonked out which I don't like.

See my gynae next month and will discuss with her.
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dazned

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Re: Utrogestan taken anally
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2017, 02:12:48 PM »

My consultant said it was fine to use it that way.  :)
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Peroxideblader

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2017, 06:55:09 PM »

Thanks everyone I'll try it this way I think..
Mary g I totally agree I'd read and read on here about doses and when I saw my gp she'd never heard of the utrogestan so basically prescribed what I asked for which was 100mg utrogestan days 15-26 which seems to be enough for one pump of oestrogel I'll be taking. This is what private menopause clinics advise to cut down on the utrogestan side effects. Unfortunateky when I said on this forum that was the regime I was using I was told to only use the nhs guidelines of the higher dose unless I go to a private meno doctor myself . So now I'm stuck.  I'm seeing the doctor Wednesday as she has to check my blood pressure and weight before she prescribes it but it was at 100mg dose...it's so confusing but like you said if I get bad effects on the utrogestan and the oestrogen like in femoston thats it for me with hrt so I don't want a bad experience
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Mary G

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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2017, 07:24:30 PM »

Peroxideglader, the problem is the NHS is very rigid with a 'one size fits all' policy but they are supposed to be guidelines, not gospel.  If you can't take that amount of progesterone, you can't just magically flick a switch and make yourself able to because of the NHS guidelines which, in my opinion, are OTT on progesterone doses anyway for many women.  The whole thing needs to be far more flexible. 

If you have a problem with progesterone, the only thing you can do is reduce the dose and then have a scan in a few months to see if you are getting adequate thinning and clearance, there is no other option.  It's pointless to slavishly take too much of it, suffer when you don't need to and then end up ditching it altogether when there are other options.  If I took the NHS stated dose of progesterone, I would get overthinning of the womb which would cause all sort of problems - I would have a permanent migraine too. 

Obviously everyone is different and there is no guarantee you will need as little progesterone as me, you might need more, but the best thing to do is to find out how much you need and stick to it. 

I hope that helps.

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Cassie

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Re: Utrogestan taken anally
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2017, 07:52:56 PM »

I seem to think that the idea behind using Utro vaginally is that it gets to the area that it is intended for much easier, heavens knows where it would end up taken anally.... :-\ Surely it must be most uncomfortable, I would want to pop it out just thinking about it....I think the vaginal walls are somehow more muscular and perhaps absorption is also better per vagina... :-\
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dazned

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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2017, 08:12:11 PM »

Lots take medication this way,it's quite usual on the continent especially.
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Maryjane

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Re: Utrogestan taken anally
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2017, 08:29:15 PM »

Just had a quick google re pregnancy and equally effective wether vaginal or rectal , rectal can cause wind and constipation ( suffer wind anyway 🙄 ) .
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Taz2

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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2017, 08:33:50 PM »

I seem to think that the idea behind using Utro vaginally is that it gets to the area that it is intended for much easier, heavens knows where it would end up taken anally.... :-\ Surely it must be most uncomfortable, I would want to pop it out just thinking about it....I think the vaginal walls are somehow more muscular and perhaps absorption is also better per vagina... :-\

The rectum should be much tighter than the vagina because you have the anal sphincter which keeps everything closed. Also absorption is much better through the walls of the rectum due to the increased blood and lymph supply and painkillers are often administered in this way if you want fast relief from pain. My son had an operation when he was four and I had to sign the consent form for rectal administration of drugs. He thought it was hilarious when he "farted blue stuff" the next morning!

Taz x
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Peroxideblader

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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2017, 10:53:22 PM »

Ha ha I bet your son loved having a laugh at the time. I agree lots of pain meds are taken this way and I don't find it any different front or back just the weeing that would push it out.  I think if you've never has to use your bun for meds it must seem awful and sorry if I asked the question but it could mean I could suffer less sude effects this way than taking it orally.
And regarding the done I agree the nhs has a one size fits all and I don't know why I'm worried about taking less on hrt when over the last 10 years nearly everything I've taken I've never had their full dose ice always ended up either halving or doubling depending on the results. I can only try but when you mention getting a scan done 2 months after I start is that something nhs will do ?
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dazned

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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2017, 08:23:18 AM »

You could ask your gp to refer you for a scan,of course it's up to them if they do. I've read on here that you can get one done relatively cheap from Mothercare I think it was. In 6 months I think would be fine.
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Peroxideblader

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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2017, 02:32:00 PM »

Thanks for all your advice I'll use it anally when I do start next time I'll give it a try
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