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atherineca

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Re: The Surgical Menopause Thread
« Reply #270 on: September 20, 2019, 08:09:46 PM »

Hi Maxwin

Thank you for replying to my post  :) 
Have you been on HRT since your hysterectomy?  I don't really have the night sweats but have several flushes a day & like I said in my post I feel nauseous and weak with them :(
I did have my Thyroid bloods taken a few days ago, I meant to phone the surgery for the result today but I forgot.  How long have you been taking the Thyroid medication too?
A few friends of mine who are slightly older, sailed through the menopause so they don't understand what some of us go through. It's not fair!  :(

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Maxwin

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« Reply #271 on: September 21, 2019, 08:41:20 AM »

Hi Atherineca, I waited approx. 3 months after my op before taking hrt to let my body settle and see how I was coping! Well back to work was looming and I was a sleepless sweaty tearful mess and knew I wouldn't cope at work and within 5 days of using hrt I had my first 'good' sleep.  It was about same time for thyroid meds as well so for both it's been nearly 9 years now.  I know what you mean about other ladies comments even someone in my family said you don't need hrt its a natural process :( well not for us.  I do still get few hot flushes and yes I also feel sicky and light headed.  Two friends have gone down the anti dep route rather than take hrt and they have said the meds have helped with symptoms.  It really is a minefield out there and when I started taking hrt never thought I would still be on it 9 years later.  I work (part time) help out with grandchildren and elderly relatives and just need to feel ok each day.  Retirement is long way off so I'm not going to rock the boat yet and will plod on :)
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atherineca

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« Reply #272 on: September 23, 2019, 10:13:50 AM »

Hi Maxwin

It's funny that you mentioned antidepressants.  As in my original post I mentioned I was taking them for 9 yrs from 2003 - 2012.  I had my hysterectomy in 2010, so maybe they masked some of my menopausal symptoms in the beginning.  I came off them due to the amount of weight I gained.  I have heard a lot of women gain weight on hrt too!  So we can't win!

Thanks again for your reply :)
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Charlotte1988

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« Reply #273 on: September 23, 2019, 12:56:36 PM »

I had BSO last Monday and was immediately given HRT because of my age. I was told that I would be in menopause after my operation.
Is it normal to not have any symptoms of menopause?

I was given femoston, my GP said I will have a bleed each month, could anyone tell me when I should expect a bleed, there are 14 white pills, and 14 grey pills in packet.

Thanks
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Hurdity

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Re: The Surgical Menopause Thread
« Reply #274 on: September 23, 2019, 06:44:36 PM »

Hi Charlotte

 :welcomemm:

Most women will get some symptoms of menopause sooner or later - even if no hot flushes and sweats other symptoms of oestrogen deficiency can creep in eg vaginal atrophy or later osteoporosis for example.

How old are you - very important to take HRT if you are under the average age of natural menopause 51/52 so it's good you have been given it immediately, and also if you are not already menopausal you would be plunged into sudden surgical menopause which is a hormonal shock so HRT is ++!

Depending where you were in your cycle before your BSO op - you should normally expect a bleed towards the end of the combi pills ( are these grey?) ie the second lot of tabs, or soon after you stop them. Which dose have you been given? Hopefully they will cushion the blow of menopausal symptoms! At some point you might need testosterone too as they produce approx 50% of androgens I think - after the op it is just the adrenals I understand.

Do let us know how you are getting on.

Hurdity x

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Charlotte1988

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« Reply #275 on: September 23, 2019, 08:20:16 PM »

Thanks for your reply!
I'm 31, and have been told I will need hrt until I am 50 to prevent oestioparosis (sorry can't spell lol). I have been given femoston 1/10mg, I have white pills and grey pills.
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Viwi

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« Reply #276 on: September 23, 2019, 08:50:05 PM »

Oh my - Charlotte - you are even younger than me  :o I'm 33 :)
I can't use tablets, so without patches I'm doomed :( I'm using only estrogen  ::)
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Sammiejane

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Re: The Surgical Menopause Thread
« Reply #277 on: September 23, 2019, 11:42:02 PM »

Hi viwi

I was 35 when I had my op hysterectomy and bso and I didn't have hrt I tried one patch elleste solo but it didn't and my GP said oh u clearly don't suit hrt so can't take it I didn't know there were different options so badly treated I fortunately had no Symtoms for 4 yrs but then hit with them all and am struggling to find a balance at the moment had to give up work have auto immune deisease ostiopenia I tried estrogel had side effects am now on estradot patch ! What patch are u on and dose ?
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Viwi

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« Reply #278 on: September 24, 2019, 12:55:21 AM »

Sammie I am using Evorel 50 patches. I got symptoms around 10 days after total hysterectomy + bso and for me HRT was like blessing. My Ginekologist told me to go to GP asap to take HRT and my GP gave me patches Femseven 50. But I had allergy reaction for glue in those patches and changed to Evorel after 6 weeks. I have great GP... To deal with my messed health and not give up... I admire him. But he always listen and discuss all option that are best for me.
They all told me to use HRT as it prevents from osteoporosis and the lowest dose that clinically prevent it is 50. But as my ovaries never worked properly... Dose 50 is making me keep to much water and sodium so I have swollen legs. I would love to have 25 but my GP don't let me ... As it's not preventing osteoporosis :(
Sorry for my English.. the more tired I am, it's getting worser  :D

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Sammiejane

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Re: The Surgical Menopause Thread
« Reply #279 on: September 24, 2019, 06:10:33 PM »

Viwi

I tried everol 50 but couldn't get the patch to stick !

I was  on estradot 75 but I'm struggling on that very bloated swollen abdomen fluid retention my GP advised to go back on the gel and add innprogesterone and if I feel awful I've decided I'm going to go on contraceptive pill
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Viwi

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« Reply #280 on: September 26, 2019, 08:28:45 AM »

I had problem with sticking patch with FemSeven - 6h and it peeled off XD I used old method to cover it with another plaster but after 4 weeks I had rush under patch so changed to evorel. I'm still covering it with film plaster - I don't know how to call it :P  I don't know if I can put link here but... If I can't - please remove it :)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GGJRFJC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use this - as I'm chubby and I'm wearing only trousers - all patches have problem with staying in place where is a friction with material. It's helping a lot :)
Yesterday GP gave me Estraderm MX 50 as replacement for Evorel... I told them to leave prescription in reception as my pharmacy have NONE HRT patches... they send it to my pharmacy...  :o  No comment... I went to my pharmacy and lady is telling me that they just ordered it  ::) so fingers crossed for it to be today after 12...  ??? Why fingers crossed? Because the dont know if they will get them  ;D Not I dont know if I should cry, laugh or curse... I feel bad for mu husb this week.

I wanted to ask - as they cut everything in my case - no cervix, ovaries, womb... nothing - is it possible to feel pain in place where ovaries were - pain quite similar to when I had ovulation... To be hones I got dumb the first time it happened - it was few hours of constant pulling pain - exactly like I had with ovulation. The only diffrence is that this pain is every 2-2.5 month and not every 3 weeks. Phantom pain?
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Rhiner

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Re: The Surgical Menopause Thread
« Reply #281 on: September 26, 2019, 11:33:41 AM »

Viwi,
The pain is probably due to scar tissue that is what my GP said. I get this occasionally as I had my ovaries removed 3 yrs ago.
Rhiner
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Viwi

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Re: The Surgical Menopause Thread
« Reply #282 on: September 26, 2019, 03:53:56 PM »

The case is - it's not in place that the scar is, not even close. And before histerecomy, I had 2 laparoscopies as I had cysts on ovaries and had them removed - I never had this kind of pain before and they could hurt as well. Truth be told - I have in my discharge info that they never found right ovularis. Dont know what to think about it :(
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Tc

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Re: The Surgical Menopause Thread
« Reply #283 on: September 29, 2019, 11:05:28 PM »

Ladies. I'm so pleased to see this thread has been bumped. I've only just noticed  Hello everyone.
I'm 54 had BSO  just over a  year ago. I've been on the forum almost a year. I'm on estradot, ugrogestan, testogel.

 I cant believe this discussion  about the pain. I thought it was just me.
 I've been getting unmistakable ovarian pain in my left side where I had the cyst.  I told my gynae and  she sent me for a scan.  There is something called "ovarian remnant syndrome" but this was ruled out in my case as  they said If I had ovarian tissue left behind it would be obvious from my blood tests   I'm not too sure about that realy.

. It sometimes hurts to press too.which iit did at  my last ultrasound. The  radiologist said  its phantom pain. But how can pain when pressed be phantom. I have  wondered if its scar tissue. I asked him and he said you can't  see scar tissue on a scan.

 Weirdly when I went for womens physio and she pressed that side high up in my vagina it hurt too. The same side. Anyone else had that?

Rhiner did your doc say anything further about scar tissue.?

Viwi are you saying they didnt remove your right ovary/couldnt find it. If so then I think they should look into this pain.. A scan maybe. 

Charlotte
 When I had BSO  I was told previous cycle becomes irrelevant as soon as the op is done. It stops dead. . . So it wont come into play regarding your bleed on HRT.   I  hope your recovery is going well x

Best wishes to all. X






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Rhiner

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Re: The Surgical Menopause Thread
« Reply #284 on: September 30, 2019, 03:47:52 PM »

Hi TC,
No the doctor just said as you've had an op there will be some scaring and could be a bit of discomfort from this. Seems reasonable to me and it just comes and goes.
Rhiner
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