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[Elizabethrose]

Hahaha, what a collective we are! We sound like Les Dawson and Roy Barraclough's Cissie and Ada. Haha do you remember them?

Sparkle, if you were just ovulating, the period would be due in a couple of wks. If it doesn't come it may indicate the follicles are just not producing enough to build an endometrial layer. Fingers crossed for you! It's very very promising that your mood remains high even with all the horrible digestive problems you've been juggling.

Machair, I hope you're having a wonderful time. I'd love to pick your brains sometime about the Hebrides. We watched a BBC4 docu on them whilst away and they look stunning. We've never done the Scottish Isles but I think we'd love them!! Hopefully any hormonal niggles will save until you're home but it may be like last month and all amount to nothing. It does seem to be following a regular cycle of sorts with you. These darn ovaries! Enjoy the wonderful walking, the fresh air and glorious fish and shellfish.

I'm still on an oestrogen low, nothing's changed at all. The flushes continue all day every day but they aren't coming every 15/20 mins as they did before. I'm wearing Oxford shirts with the neck and cuffs undone with a shawl scarf slung over me: that way I can release my throat and wrists and let the heat pass easily!  The wakeful surge before the night flushes is still being controlled by my bedtime snack which is an absolute blessing. I can't believe something so simple can make a difference. If I can control the blood sugar level overnight, the hormonal surge is eased: I still wake before the flush hits but can go back to sleep. Interestingly I'm waking early, about 5.30ish with a surge and a flush but I'm fully awake then: so maybe the blood sugar boost has run down by then.

I wish you both well with no naughty hormonal nasties. How are all you other ladies doing, Elaine how are you? xxx

Sorry forgot to say, nagging migraine since back, had to take meds both days. I feel sure it's been aggravated by the paint fumes, I just can't get rid of them, the googled tips I tried yesterday didn't work at all. My hubby came home last night to a house filled with burning candles and bowls of lemon water everywhere. He just gave me 'the look'. He is such a wind up, he is never affected by anything!! 

[Elizabethrose]

How long have you had the mucus Sparkle, if a while and it goes straight into a bleed, it could be that it is an anovulatory cycle? Was it the stretchy egg white type fertile mucus? Soaring oestrogen highs can give me PMT type symptoms, think Machair gets that too. Did you have any signs of high oestrogen?

Mig just grumbling, meds haven't completely removed it. So much to do this weekend I need to be firing on all cylinders! This house is so smelly though, I know it's affecting me. Such a pain!  xx

[Machair]

Get the gun Sparkle! 2 small spots of yellow brown discharge this morning. 2 weeks after several high oestrogen days but hasn't turned into anything more so far. Gutted as finally thought I was in the home straight. Sort of expected as I have had the high oestrogen signs for days on end a fortnight ago with nothing much since.

[Elizabethrose]

Ladies, I have one thing to advise...............

And as ER streaks ahead........................    59 days today!!

No really, don't panic either of you. At least it's not a full scale bleed, those ancient follicles are clearly not up to much now, has to be a good sign!  I have everything crossed for you both. xx

Menomale, I can't advise I'm afraid, the HRT will have adjusted your natural pattern making it impossible to read. When I was being 'treated' with HRT the side effects were horrendous, aside from permanent migraine! It's good to have you join our late peri old banger gang, the more the merrier! x

[Machair]

ER delighted to share the delights of The Outer Hebrides anytime. I can PM with my personal email if you like when I get home and can send some photos. We know North Uist South Uist and Benbecula intimately and have some knowledge of Harris but from a few years back. x

[Machair]

I would like to know if other ladies finished in a similar way to myself and Sparkle in having spotting rather than normal periods at the end of peri- things like just specks of brown loss rather than normal periods. I know the norm is to be less and less often with lighter flow, but mine are getting so light you could almost miss them. Is this normal?

I suppose the thing is that is that we are still having all the hormonal signs like the stretchy mucus so are not the other side yet. Does anyone remember their last ever period so they could share the details with us?

[Machair]

Sounds like a period with no pmt warnings Sparkle.I think the clock starts again and ER is in the lead!

[Elizabethrose]

Good morning ladies, yippeeeeee no migraine!!!

Grim start yesterday, took meds and it did calm enough for me to achieve something. Son arrived to help hubby with heavy lifting so achieved all we hoped to yesterday. I have decided I am going to have a message tattooed across my forehead - 'never let anyone persuade you to have more than one room decorated and re-carpeted at the same time'. This is total mayhem. There is not a single room in this house that is either not completely emptied or doesn't have furniture stacked to the ceiling. OMG!! We even have to sit with our legs at an angle on the loos. KILL ME!!

Back to periods and discharge....

Sparkle that certainly sounds like a period.... of sorts. I found that many of the usual menstrual symptoms lessened with my later periods and flow was much reduced. I am utterly sure my recent bleeds were anovulatory as my oestrogen levels had been through the roof and my endometrium is super able to clear itself (it's sure had lots of practise). The fact that your mucus changed throughout the recent time period might also suggest that it was a regular cycle. I have absolutely no discharge if not on an oestrogen high now. Ummm, watching this like a hawk!

Machair, you too seem to have been following a pattern of cycles of sorts and having a loss, be it ever so slight, just at the right times. I think it's common for periods to become lighter and lighter towards the end. However, as we've said before, there is no normal, we are all different!

Well, it's not the end of the world, we'll get there. One thing's for sure, neither of you have been ravaged as in early peri, therefore it's a good indication that things are calming. The fact that your mood is stable is utterly brilliant Sparkle and hugely reassuring.

As for me being in the lead, well we all know that that is probably tenuous. Don't forget, I'll be the super granny headlining the scummy tabloids, 'Eighty year old menstruating granny ate live hamsters to stay young and gorgeous'!!

Smile ladies and enjoy your day xx

PS Machair I'll PM you my email address when you're home. I'd love some hot tips and may plan a trip next year. Thank you! x

[Machair]

Just wondering Sparkle have you got any hot flushes or night sweats yet? I am waking up at 6am very hot have you had that? Did you have any PMT at all or was the period an unexpected thing?

[Elizabethrose]

Oh Sparkle. decorating is a pain isn't it?! Haha the wardrobe in the sitting room made me smile. We had a new kitchen and bathroom put in about 2 years ago and again the house was totally chaotic. We had a shower cubicle, dishwasher and double oven sitting in our sitting room. My MIL who suffers with dementia came for dinner and boy was she confused. No matter how many times we explained why they were there, she kept wondering aloud why we were sitting in the bathroom or kitchen!

My hubby loves it all too, he is never fazed or even slightly concerned about general upheaval and thrives on being busy all the time. It's really annoying, sit down already!! It makes me feel guilty for not spending all my time on the hoof!

It's such a good sign that you feel in a better place mentally, you'd said that you weren't up to having the bedroom decorated on here. Just need to get your tummy sorted! xx

[Elizabethrose]

They are coming tomorrow and Tuesday and hubby is working from home for a couple of days which is great because I'm just about workmened out! (think I just made up a new word!)

How are you feeling now, all discharge ended? x

[Machair]

Crumbs I know what it feels to be workmened out! We had a new bathroom this summer and it was a living nightmare.

[Elizabethrose]

Sparkle, was your Gp visit today? If so how'd you get on? x

[Elizabethrose]

Absolutely well and truly kn--------d tonight ladies. They are back tomorrow but then I'm done - for a long while! It's beginning to take shape, some rooms done and one hallway, but we've managed to return most of furniture to sitting room and dining room which makes it all feel a little more settled. Sitting with heat bag in small of my back! Plus green tea!  I'm very easily pleased! x

[Elizabethrose]

Was she able to make any valuable suggestions? The endoscopy is a bummer BUT such a good idea. It's easy to imagine all sorts of nasties are happening when you suffer like you do. Take the happy pills and anything else you can beg from them, you don't get medals for being a martyr!

Well those old ovaries of yours are still trying (very trying!!) but aren't managing to come up with much now. You must definitely be on the home run. I'm really pleased you've managed to ride the storm so easily this month, it's a massive improvement on your holiday experience in June!! xx