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breeze

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Re: US Elections
« Reply #105 on: November 11, 2016, 07:25:18 PM »

The right to peaceful protest is part of the democratic process.  Unfortunately these days there always seems to be an anarchist group, of some kind that infiltrates, just to cause trouble.

Sign of the times I'm afraid.
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Ju Ju

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« Reply #106 on: November 11, 2016, 07:43:00 PM »

They are having to work with people they have liked and respected, who are now coming out with such awful statements. Politics was not an issue before.
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« Reply #107 on: November 11, 2016, 07:54:09 PM »

Bit like after Brexit - and other apparently peaceful neighbourhoods …….. people keep their thoughts closed until the arena changes [think Rowanda, Serbia/Croatia].

It will settle.  People across the World feel disfranchised and want more say and because there is more media opportunity they can get angry in front of more people …… we had the Jarrow Marches here ……..

Apparently there is a 'softer' side to Trump ………  ::)
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breeze

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« Reply #108 on: November 11, 2016, 08:05:03 PM »

Oh heavens, that sound disgusting.

Which side is it.  I'll try not to look.

Sorry feeling slightly insane tonight ::)
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CLKD

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Re: US Elections
« Reply #109 on: November 11, 2016, 08:14:30 PM »

 :lol:
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Ju Ju

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« Reply #110 on: November 11, 2016, 09:18:29 PM »

I've been reading that a lot of people think Trump will be impeached within his first year. We can only hope.
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Dana

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Re: US Elections
« Reply #111 on: November 11, 2016, 09:48:52 PM »



I'm still waiting for someone to answer my earlier question about what Obama did for America.  ;)

Probably no one here is expert enough on US politics to answer, but there are a number of sites on google that answer this very question. :)

That made me smile because it seems everybody in the world is an expert on Trump and Clinton but is unable to answer a very simple question on Obama.  If he's done anything wonderful then it should be at the forefront of people's minds and shouldn't need answering by "experts".

Afraid I haven't got time to read through all those links as I'm off to organise my mothers POA but thanks to ElizabethRose for posting.

Well I'm not an expert. Can't really speak for anyone else.

Anyway maybe you should make the time because it's interesting reading.
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Dana

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Re: US Elections
« Reply #112 on: November 11, 2016, 10:05:53 PM »

As a general comment, the peaceful protests are part of democracy. The violence of course is not. People are going through a process of grief and shock at the moment. Things will settle down given time, provided Trump doesn't antagonise them.

However, let's not kid ourselves that these same protests wouldn't be going on if Clinton had won. Maybe they would have been worse because the KKK would have been involved.

Now is the time for Trump to show exactly what kind of president he intends to be. If he continues to send out tweets like the first one we'll have our answer. The second one was better, so hopefully someone has given him a kick in the bum and told him to act more like a president. Regardless of whether you like or dislike Obama, his diplomatic shoes are going to be big ones for Trump to fill. Hopefully someone takes him in hand pretty quickly.


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Ju Ju

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« Reply #113 on: November 12, 2016, 08:15:03 AM »

A President of any country should not have to been taken in hand! Open to advice and guidance, yes. And if he is taken in hand, who really is in charge?  ::)



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Dana

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« Reply #114 on: November 12, 2016, 08:37:21 AM »

No they shouldn't have to be, but Trump isn't a "normal" president. If he continues to act like he did prior to the election then America is in for a lot of civil unrest. It's up to him how things pan out.
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Ju Ju

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« Reply #115 on: November 12, 2016, 09:00:26 AM »

Yes, interesting times.

I see Trump as a symptom. People hate and are angry, because they are afraid. They are afraid because they do not feel that they have worth and value in this world. Because their life experience has not given them the experience of being valued.
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Pennyfarthing

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« Reply #116 on: November 12, 2016, 09:49:58 AM »



I'm still waiting for someone to answer my earlier question about what Obama did for America.  ;)

Probably no one here is expert enough on US politics to answer, but there are a number of sites on google that answer this very question. :)

That made me smile because it seems everybody in the world is an expert on Trump and Clinton but is unable to answer a very simple question on Obama.  If he's done anything wonderful then it should be at the forefront of people's minds and shouldn't need answering by "experts".

Afraid I haven't got time to read through all those links as I'm off to organise my mothers POA but thanks to ElizabethRose for posting.

Well I'm not an expert. Can't really speak for anyone else.

Anyway maybe you should make the time because it's interesting reading.

I will do and thanks but My Mum is taking up so much of my time just now.
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Pennyfarthing

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« Reply #117 on: November 12, 2016, 09:53:18 AM »

Yes, interesting times.

I see Trump as a symptom. People hate and are angry, because they are afraid. They are afraid because they do not feel that they have worth and value in this world. Because their life experience has not given them the experience of being valued.

But they should at least give him a chance to try and change things for the better.  I'm not a fan of his or Clintons but whoever was elected  deserves a chance.  His haters and the violent aggressors are just waiting for the tiniest thing to scream and protest about and the cycle will continue.
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« Reply #118 on: November 12, 2016, 10:17:20 AM »

I think president Obama was a safe pair of hands. His was a presidency which was not stained by any scandals or outrages. He tried to do a lot but in many cases his hands were tied by the senate. I really liked the open sharing of love between him and his wife on official occasions. There stood a woman who believed wholeheartedly in not just the president but in the man. I wish them all the best for the future whatever that may be.

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Ju Ju

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« Reply #119 on: November 12, 2016, 11:11:39 AM »

Yes, a man did his best for others, rather than fuel his own ambition. A man who gives and receives love and values other people, even if he doesn't respect their choice of behaviour. I have a lot of respect for Obama.

When people run for any election, they may make promises of things they want to do and achieve. However, once in power they become privy to information they or we do not have or are blocked by other forces. It's easy to be judgemental when they don't achieve these things.

But I am judgemental on Trumps choice of behaviour. Politics can get very dirty, but never more so than what we have just witnessed. You do not behave as Trump has done if you are coming from a healthy balanced place.
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