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[libby1]

Well the physio was lovely and very knowledgeable. She said that I do have some strength in my pelvic floor so I don't feel a total wreck  And that my prolapses are Grade 1-2

I've been given a daily programme of exercises and have to go back in 3 weeks.

Libby
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[Goosieloosie]

Well the physio was lovely and very knowledgeable. She said that I do have some strength in my pelvic floor so I don't feel a total wreck  And that my prolapses are Grade 1-2

I've been given a daily programme of exercises and have to go back in 3 weeks.

Libby
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Can I ask what she did with you Libby, I mean did she examine you or do any tests on a computer? As I found out on this site that I should've had digital tests etc done to check the strength of my pelvic floor.....I never had anything like that done in the 7 to 8 months that i went monthly to see the physio  All she did was give me a written sheet of exercises to do & increased them each time I went, I gave up in the end, got fed up with the journey into town just to be told to do 10 more squeezes while walking downstairs  I even asked her to dig out my hospital notes from the birth of my kids as my last delivery ended up with a 3rd degree tear & I blame that for most of the problems I have down there but after waiting & asking for 3  months she said she couldn't get them as they didn't go back that far...my son was only 13 at the time I was at her appointment you would think he was 43 or something
Glad you had a nice knowledgeable lady, hope it all goes well for you 

[Maryjane]

Taz they do it using your own muscles/ligaments . Mesh is causing horrendous problems sometimes years later. My own local hospital have never used mesh , as they said it's a recipe for disaster and is proving so for many.

[libby1]

Hi Goosie

She examined me very thoroughly and could feel how the muscles were working and how well they were working. I didn't have any electodes or computers but I felt cofident that she knew what she was talking about 

She said that the electrical stimulators are generally used for ladies who have no strength at all in their muscles or who cannot strengthen them with exercises. So I'm going to try on my own first and then she's going to see if it has made a difference, if not we may then go on to the electrical stimulator which she will program specifically for me.

Lots of squeezes then 

Libby
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[Taz2]

Taz they do it using your own muscles/ligaments . Mesh is causing horrendous problems sometimes years later. My own local hospital have never used mesh , as they said it's a recipe for disaster and is proving so for many.

That's reassuring Maryjane - I can't find anything online about vaginal vault prolapse repair which doesn't involve mesh. It's good to know that there is another way!

Taz x

[Maryjane]

The surgeons are most definitely out there , I can't remember the names used for the different types but one is the Birch procedure but there are more. I have personally seen one of the surgeons who removes it , I don't have mesh for something else.

There are literally on a handful who can remove mesh but any old surgeon it would seem can put it in, I would never ever have mesh myself it can also cause autoimmune conditions years later.

[Taz2]

I did know about the Burch/Birch procedure but this seems to be for stress incontinence where the bladder needs to be supported rather than for a full vaginal vault prolapse? I agree that mesh is something that should be avoided if at all possible and the surgeon who carried out my hyster and repair doesn't use it for that type of op. Hopefully I wont need it. I'll keep doing the exercises!

Taz x

[Maryjane]

Taz I have been chatting to a lady with a vaginal vault , she will be having it repaired in the UK without mesh....they use your own muscle or ligaments to do the job using internal stitches. She doesn't no the correct name.

[libby1]

Hi Maryjane

Do you know where your friend is having it done or the name of the surgeon?

Libby
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[Taz2]

Let us know how she gets on! The name of the surgeon would be really helpful Maryjane if you could find out. I feel I should be prepared as I'm sure it's going to happen eventually to me!

Taz x

[Maryjane]

One of the very top surgeons for removal of mesh ( probably the top ) is Mrs Sohier Elneil London I saw her privately very quickly, the other top one is Mrs Natalia Price Oxford she is gathering her own evidence on the disasters of mesh as are many surgeons now , this includes hernias as well.

So these two surgeons do none mesh surgery, there are a more but these are the most talked about.

In Scotland I believe that 3 of the 4 types of mesh surgery have been banned. I suggest joining a face book group called sling the mesh , which is working very hard to get the dangers of this out there .

[libby1]

Hi Girls

Well, I'm totally fed up    Been doing my kegels every day for the last 2 weeks and  feel really uncomfortable and feel like I need to wee all the time    On the point of giving up

Any advice?

Libby
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[Maryjane]

I personally am against pelvic floor exercises and so are a lot of  physios, look up PFD pelvic floor dysfunction as this is what they can cause.

[Taz2]

Maryjane do you mean you are against pelvic floor exercisers such as Kegel 8 or that you shouldn't do any pelvic floor exercises?

libby1 - my pelvic floor specialist nurse was totally against the Kegel 8 but I can't remember why now.

Taz x

[libby1]

These are just me doing kegels on my own that's causing me discomfort 

Libby
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